Wall Street May Yet Take Ukraine Seriously

Although Russia’s move to annex Crimea has the potential to dramatically alter the economic and political landscape of Europe, we’d initially assumed it would elicit only a fleeting yawn from Wall Street. After all, U.S. investors have proven time and again over the last five years that the only news they even remotely care about is whatever drivel happens to be emerging from the pie hole of the Federal Reserve chairman. Now we’re not so sure. Recently, investors seem to have grown schizophrenic. Recall that exactly two weeks ago, the Dow rallied 250 points to begin a new week even though there was no news to suggest Putin would back down. The blue chip index held onto most of that gain until last Thursday, when it dove 300 points. Little had changed in the intervening weeks. Europe and the U.S. were still at a verbal impasse with Putin, who showed no sign of budging, and Crimea itself seemed eager to accede.

Stocks Could Struggle

Now, with Crimea’s vote over the weekend to join Russia, will the U.S. stock market keep its cool?  We’d bet against it, even though our technical forecast implies that a 1500-point rally in the Dow Industrials will unfold within the year.  It’s too early to throw in the towel on that prediction, especially since last week’s slide barely dented the bullishness of the Dow’s long-term chart. But in the weeks and perhaps even months ahead, we wouldn’t be surprised if U.S. investors show uncharacteristic concern about events in Europe, especially if “Crimea fever” begins to spread to the Balkans and elsewhere . Meanwhile, although probably not one hedge fund manager in ten could locate Ukraine on a map, they’re going to be hearing quite a bit more about the region than they’d care to for the foreseeable future.

A Botched Response?

Nor will it be freedom, capitalism, human dignity, democracy and such that they’ll be worried about; rather, it will be the risk of a botched response by the U.S. and Europe that could provoke Putin to use economic weapons of his own. Not that he’s capable of undermining the dollar all by himself, as he has threatened to do in the past. But he has allies of his own, and they are undoubtedly eager to break the greenback’s monopoly status as a global reserve currency. This may be wishful thinking on their part in a world where the dollar is the only currency liquid enough to lubricate global commerce and a quadrillion-dollar financial shell game. But even mere threats by Putin against the financial status quo could rattle the world’s bourses, especially since their spectacular rise since 2009 has been achieved with flimsy financial tricks and fatally misplaced confidence. [Late note: It is midnight Sunday, and the S&P index futures were trading within a point of unchanged after having been down the equivalent of nearly 100 Dow points.]

  • mario cavolo March 24, 2014, 4:16 am

    Hi Chuck and all, I hear you about the house of cards, but offer a friendly reminder that said house of cards extends far beyond U.S. shores; 50% + of S&P500 earning are global, not domestic, and globally, overall, GDP is expanding, mostly out of Asia led by China….so the house of cards may go on for decades longer.

    Another friendly reminder that Asia’s rise led by China’s rise and adoption of capitalism began only ten years ago from a base at a much larger scale than previous such expansions, namely the U.S. and Europe. Such expansions last into that 40-60 year cycle mark. I mean to clarify that the U.S. expansion began at GDP $2 trillion with a workforce of 20 million with a current workforce of 120 million at GDP $16 T. China on the other hand BEGAN its expansion at around GDP $7 T and today has 390 million in its still expanding domestic workforce. Much bigger scale.

    Said points well leads to V’s point that China will indeed get cozy with other countries including Russia and make big plays to the chagrin of U.S. interests. China doesn’t feel warm and fuzzy nor beholden to declining U.S leverage, power and respect in the global economy.

    As such, I fully agree with the assessment of many global institutions that world GDP will hit $200 T in the next 30-40 years, with China garnering a 40% of that total and the U.S less than 20% of that total. I would suggest, though we are all proven to be insanely bad at predicting what the future will look like in 20 years, that’s a plausible model of economic and societal developments in the coming decades. Always with the caveat that the U.S. /EU / China economic block does not experience some type of financial armageddon event.

    Cheers, Mario

  • mava March 23, 2014, 12:27 am

    Already, there are “opinion” polls, not voting yet, in Donetsk. They are counting the people who want Russia to annex Donetsk region. Based on these, they say, they will decide if there needs to be a referendum.

    Sanctions proved to be ridiculous show of nothing. No teeth no bites, just the carpet munching. The commander of Black Sea Navy got his chances to receive an American Visa x-ed. As if he would be the one to apply for it, LOL! Not unless he decides to flee, in which case, he will get it, no sweat. Some banks got denials from Visa system and such. Just watched the news, – they don’t care. The rest of the banks move the funds for them.

    It seems that the whole dog and pony show was designed to show that somehow we still control what Russia can and cannot do. Clearly it failed in the eyes of the world, except on CNN and FOX.

    I still think it would be more advantageous for us, the US, to ignore the whole thing. At least, then we would not expose our weakness.

    • EVIL VLAD March 23, 2014, 9:40 pm

      “I still think it would be more advantageous for us, the US…”

      mava,
      only about 3 years ago, you didn’t consider yourself a ussa citizen,
      rambling on about being an independent world citizen, even though
      you lived in the ussa; yet, according to you, you didn’t need any ussa credentials,
      no driver’s license, no paying income tax, a ‘we don’ need no stinkin’ badges’ mentality.
      so what happened to that ‘free range’ mava? was it another mava, maybe, and not you?
      haha.

      ’cause now it’s “…us, the US…”
      haha.
      how quickly tunes change, when it suits.

      • mava March 24, 2014, 5:14 am

        –explanation deleted–

        Do you really think, VLAD, that right now is exactly the time when “it suits”?

        –explanation deleted–

  • Rick Ackerman March 22, 2014, 6:10 pm

    Your post goes directly to a key point in my commentary: that it is not Crimea/Ukraine’s status that could upset the geopolitical world and the markets, but an inept, poorly crafted response by Europe and the U.S.

    Can you or anyone else tell me what the punishment of Putin is meant to accomplish? Yes, that’s right: punishment for punishment’s sake, lest an already fatally enfeebled West appear weak. Since he is not going to reverse the annexation — will more likely extend it, as your post suggests — does the tit-for-tat retaliation continue to spiral out-of-control until it topples a global financial system that is already primed to fall?

    • EVIL VLAD March 22, 2014, 9:27 pm

      Lost my crystal ball yesterday, along with tea leaves, also tarot deck, and chicken bones.
      so cannot tell you for sure, ackerman, what is soon forthcoming, day by day, via putin.
      so, as to ‘spiraling out of control’, I can’t say, but, like I did say, I THINK IT’S A PLAN.
      and there is nothing ‘out of control’ about it. I think putin (and chinese, plus friends)
      are rolling the dice, in the big table, of the entire human race. been done before.
      will occur again. so drop current pretensions, and focus on big historical picture.

      $$$$$$$$$$$$

      however, I’ll tell you this, since I don’t understand your question, for it makes no sense.

      way I see it, you are looking at the wrong thing. punishment? who cares.
      all that is presentational theater. you play a part, so you spew the part’s speech.

      example–way you treat MY posts. you have a ‘standard’, of your own,
      since you are owner of this site. this is not the standard of all, but, it is your belief,
      that this is standard for most, that follow your site, you edicts, your dictums, so–
      you censor ME, because I am vile, a dissolute degenerate, corrupt to core,
      that won’t play ball with family-approved commentary, so—down with VLAD.

      yet, occasionally, you get some ideas, from my ideas, so, you continue to publish them.

      same with putin, same concept. putin must be punished, for he is a bad boy,
      yet, we ussa still need fkker in certain matters, so, let’s show him we’re serious upset,
      and maybe he’ll learn to tow the line, and play ball, according to my ussa rules, only.
      (since I am still the big boss, says ussa, subliminally, with their 582 bil ‘defense.’)

      but, does it work? maybe. sometimes, intimidation from afar, does work. however,
      sometimes, it doesn’t. example–have your multiple threats to ME, changed me at all?
      same with putin, only bigger scale. for putin will not back down. he’d rather die.
      and that’s what pansy-arses like obumba and hollande, don’t understand.
      however, merkel is the brain of the 3. and she gets it. so, she is real quiet, re putin.
      she says, underbreath, don’t rock the boat. we need this nasty guy. he ain’t playin.
      let him take crimea. it belonged to him anyway. and he’ll have to pay billions, to save it.
      stay low, shut your stupid commie mouth, pretentious hollande fool.
      and she thinks, it’s a good thing, across the ocean, they also got a pansy president.

      do you understand now, ackerman? it’s all show. but the next scene, belongs to putin.
      and we shall see how he comes out.

      • Oregon March 23, 2014, 7:05 pm

        Tasking various drugs with harmonizing chaotic brain secretions is a complex and elusive endeavor. No?

  • EVIL VLAD March 22, 2014, 3:49 pm

    THE REAL REALIST NEWS
    saturday edition, may 22, 2014

    I’ve been reading plenty about ukraine for a couple of weeks, dozens of weblinks on the matter, and here is the succinct, current bottomline–

    The putin ‘trigger point’ occurred yesterday. In other words, what putin did N-O-T want to occur, occurred. So now it’s wait and watch, on a daily basis, to see exactly what putin will do about it, because he will SURELY do something. and probably something BIG.

    For, according to many sources in the know, like financial experts of that area of the world, plus ussa’s ex-ambassador to russia mcfaul, plus anybody in the ukraine that was interviewed, from the top to the bottom—(the current pm, plus one of the presidential candidates, plus any and all on the streets of ukraine, all of them)—expect that putin WILL attack, in one way or another, to try to take ALL of the ukraine, before they are allowed to join the eu.

    And all this because yesterday, friday, ukraine’s provisional president went ahead and SIGNED the agreement to start the process of INTEGRATING into the eu (which may take 5 to 10 years, because ukraine is currently financially nowhere near, eu € standards, as a nation; actually, they are near totally broke, and getting rid of the crimea, was actually a great financial boon for them, since that region was their poorest and most historically corrupt, making only $5,000 per capita a year).

    As the prime example of the current general opinion (that putin will N-O-T stop, and will continue to try to take ALL ukraine), here is what ex-ambassador mcfaul had to say about it, just 2 days ago (after crimea was already fully annexed by russia), and it’s pretty inflamatory stuff, and from one amerikain whom should know (he left russia only 1 month ago)–

    ‘PUTIN MAY JUST BE GETTING STARTED’
    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-19/former-ambassador-putin-may-be-just-getting-started

    here are some of mcfaul’s strongest comments inside this article–

    ‘President vladimir putin is riding “an ugly nationalistic fervor that’s off the charts”‘.

    ‘…sanctions to be imposed on russia and anticipates putin will respond “tit for tat.”‘

    ‘The russian leader, he believes, has little interest in negotiations. “I don’t think he wants an off-ramp”.’

    ‘”when the soviet union or russia decides to use coercive force against one of its neighbors, no american president has been able to prevent that. This goes back to president eisenhower, who when the soviet tanks rolled into hungary in 1956 couldn’t stop it.” He added that this also was the case under former president jimmy carter when the soviets invaded afghanistan; under ronald reagan when moscow imposed martial law in poland; and during the george w. Bush administration when, in 2008, russia invaded georgia.’

    ‘Noting the “really ugly anti-american” atmosphere in russia fueled by putin… according to mcfaul, russia’s nationalistic fervor gives putin more leeway to act.’

    “Putin is highly motivated to prevail and he’s willing to incur big economic costs,” he said.’

    ‘The crisis has ominous implications , the former envoy to moscow believes.’

    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    On top of all this, is the fact that russia already has a huge economic and energy effect on eu’s top 2 nations, germany and france, since germany’s entire economy is 20% tied to russia, plus most of their energy comes from russia; and france has, as it’s biggest bondholder and bond buyer, guess who? That same russia.

    So I bet putin has been thinking about this a long time, YEARS, preparing for this move on the ukraine, and has set up the top 2 eu countries, so they are reluctant to act too strongly financially against them, if and when they take the entire ukraine, maybe piece by piece.

    And as to the ussa, the feeling I get in almost all I read, is that putin wipes his rear with the ussa, and couldn’t care less what they do, especially with their current puny president (the jungle drum obumba, shaka zulu’s retarded, closeted son, born in kenya).

    [Vlad, I am not so certain that our president is mentally retarded, but I will let the sentence stand nonetheless because ‘birthers’ are entitled to the same First Amendment rights in this forum as everyone else. That said, I would have to concede that in the career trajectory of Al Gore, there is precedent for a habitually dishonest Harvard grad of low intelligence gaining entry to the very highest ranks of the U.S. political establishment. RA]

    Bottomline, i think putin is making a big world move, step by step, a move he has been planning for years. And he ain’t gonna stop now. He warned the ukrainians long ago, to N-O-T try to join the eu; but instead told them, to join his russia, into a union of eastern-european nations (similar to the eu, but under the lead of mother russia. ha.).

    However—many ukrainians are proud to be free of russia, proud to be a free nation, and, despite their precarious financial defaulting high risk, they are a proud people, with much history of bloody battles, and they are ready to fight and die vs. Putin, to keep their sovereignty. And from all I read, die they shall.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    my own (long-shot) speculation–

    One interesting thing I noted, is the ‘what the dog did’ syndrome, from ‘silver blaze’ short story, from the tales of sherlock holmes. ‘But the dog did nothing, holmes, he did not even bark!’ – ‘yes, my dear watson, THAT is what I find interesting.’ (paraphrasing). And by ‘the dog that did not bark’, i mean—china.

    Because of the dozens of links I’ve read on the ukraine these last 2 weeks, none, zero, zilch, not even had one mention, of china, in any of this matter, or of any chinese official or billionaire or any of it’s press or it’s people, commenting on this matter. Interesting. ‘The dog that did not bark’ syndrome.

    and by this i mean, and what I am about to write, is a HUGE ‘what if,’ but, i thought—

    What if, russia and china have been planning this all along, for years, together?

    Not so much the ukraine as a goal, but just as a trigger point, to start a world f-i-n-a-n-c-i-a-l war against the west?

    After all, russia is not doing all that great financially, and china is falling of their big cliff, as i have repeatedly shown last few days.

    So what if this whole thing about ukraine, is some sort of totalitarian financial huge move, with russia and china as partners, along with many other (eastern, asian, and middle east) smaller nations following them, into a major financial war, against the ussa and europe?

    anyway, china’s utter silence on the ukraine situation, gave me this idea. interesting to me.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    To end, here’s another link from today, how china is going down further the financial toilet–

    ‘CHINA’S FINANCIAL DISTRESS TURNS ALL TOO VISIBLE’
    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/china-s-financial-distress-turns-all-too-visible-_ed~1gwkr2ase2z35ltwvw.html

    • EVIL VLAD March 22, 2014, 4:56 pm

      here is the link that gave me the ‘what if’ idea
      of a potentially planned russian/chinese-headed financial consortium,
      to (finally!) sabotage the multi-century ussa/eu hegemony over the world.

      and ukraine situation, as it’s inflamatory trigger point, for a financial world war.

      THIS WEEK–
      RUSSIA’S RICHEST BILLIONAIRE DUMPS
      ALL HIS APPLE AND FACEBOOK STOCKS,
      AND BUYS SEVERAL CHINESE TECH STOCKS.’

      http://www.bloomberg.com/video/russia-s-richest-man-invests-in-china-tech-j~t3XMj0Rv66~TiZ43m9Dg.html

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      and under the heading of
      ‘NO GOVT. RUMOR IS TRUE UNTIL IT IS OFFICIALLY DENIED’

      no less than richard haass, president of the cfr
      (council on foreign relations, home to top 1%er world ‘insiders’)
      has OFFICIALLY come out and said in this interview this last week,
      that russia has NO CHANCE of ever becoming a world SUPERPOWER again.
      (and he brought a chart of yearly military budget, with russia at 69 bil and ussa 582 bil,
      chart graphically showing a humongous rocket for ussa, and puny rocket for russia, ha)

      http://www.bloomberg.com/video/haass-russia-won-t-come-back-as-a-superpower-tPMc2SvkS8mrYZ6~mObJjQ.html

      haha. we shall see. for the game’s afoot, watson.
      because china’s military budget is now 132 bil, and growing.
      and if my russia/china/east friends consortium theory proves correct, then
      132 plus 69 plus x (from east friends), get’s anti-ussa military budgets up to 200+ bil
      and starts to make things interesting. so, if my theory is correct, that ukraine,
      is the start of something really big, planned and setup by russia/china, for years,
      so they control world finances,
      well—it’s possible, not probable, but possible also that europe
      will eventually to also throw in their towel, the russia/chinese consortium,
      thus leave the ussa out alone in financial the cold.

      just thinking outloud.

      for I can tell you this–there are mighty many people around the entire world
      that hate the ussa. mighty many people that are tired of the usa running things.
      lots of countries. and a russian/chinese consortium, would nearly even the table.

      ‘the bigger they are, the harder they fall’.
      humphrey bogart’s last movie, before he fell of cancer.

      • gary leibowitz March 23, 2014, 6:59 pm

        First off Crimea was never an issue until Ukraine made it one. Russia has been the big loser over the last few decades. Too declare this as a victory is absurd. They have lost territory and influence with most of their satellite countries. The notion that Russia will once again be a super power is just as ridiculous. In case anyone noticed Crimea wants to be part of Russia. The sanctions are just to pretend we really care. We don’t. In fact Russia will have to shell out a lot of money to support their new acquisition. Large population is on pensions. Yes the notion of a socialist retirement system is alive and well even there. There is hardly any chance that Putin tries to annex anyone else. I give that chance at 10,000 to 1. Russia China relationship is one of oil.

        Investing in CHINA? What a novel idea. I guess our own American corporations are also conspiring to over throw US since they are scrambling to get a piece of the action.

        How anyone can think Russia will cause us headaches in the future has to step in line. We have and will continue to have the Middle East as the number one problems plaguing this world. China is fast becoming a capitalist society. How they manage to keep the old regime with the new economic freedoms is going to be interesting. China is quickly learning that they don’t have the type of control as they once had, and will continue to lose that power if they allow corporations to dictate policy. The problems they are experiencing “all” capitalist societies went through. They are no different. When they transform into a country that focuses on internal growth they will go thru the same boom/bust deficit expansion as all others have before and after them. Welcome to capitalism with all its flaws and successes.

        Their problems will be self-induced and will occupy them for a long time to come. Their dependence on commodities will force them to make alliances.

        There is no danger from either nations in the immediate future. I wish all our problems were so well defined. Its the nations that have religious and ethnic conflicts in their own border that will continue to be the worlds major problems.

      • gary leibowitz March 23, 2014, 7:30 pm

        As for Putin, he is old school, and will be swallowed up as being anyone of influence in the future. His countries days of power and influence are gone. Oil is the only thing driving him and his economy. His regime is failing and will continue to deteriorate. There will be no historian that puts Putin in their books as anything but a footnote. Cuba and Russia have not advanced for 50 years and will dissolve on their own failed policies. No one need to influence this continued deterioration. they have managed to screw it up all by themselves. Putin in fact had an opportunity to change the direction of their country but being so entrenched in the old school power structure and policy it became clear he was no visionary. He has lost any chance of being a real leader. All he ever does is use his enhanced paranoia to believe people really care what they do or even if they stay in power. There has been no evidence of any power play to push Russia out of its role in the world. they have done that all on their own. The world wants a better living for its citizens on the most part. The countries that are controlling and restrictive have lost out in the 21st century. They will never gain power again, other than to feed on calamity as their only means to this end. Sad that some countries need disaster to strengthen their position. Feeding on weakness is what bullies do. Have you know a bully that cares for anyone but themselves?

      • Chuck March 23, 2014, 9:43 pm

        Not to condone Putin, but he IS very much a big player on the world scene. The country has incredibly talented scientist…..they still have the only viable space launch solution – one that we end up renting. This thing is going to get real deep…..just a matter of time. If you want to attempt to marginalize Putin….forget about it….this is going to topple the west’s financial house of cards…….and it’s about damn time. I like investing in stocks, but it’s all a fake game now…..

  • mario cavolo March 22, 2014, 2:31 am

    Often I have considered that V you are a BIG problem here. On the other hand, its just that you are simply addicted, as any addict might be, to the adrenaline rush of extremes, to the art of rhetoric and sensationalism and shock media headlines, of which the world of media, journalism and advertising are the spin masters.

    Some might call it mental masturbation. Indeed, China’s rate of growth is slowing as expected, nothing new there.

    The yuan is moved from 6 back up to 6.2 after falling from 8.5 for the past ten years and the media uses words like “collapsing” and “plunging”. Lots of margin accounts have their triggers to hell hovering around 6.2. You think Beijing “doesn’t” know that? Beijing will knock you down and then kick you to get you back in line when they decide it’s time to reign in the speculative parade.

    That’s hysterical folks.

    Lots of margin accounts have their triggers to hell hovering around 6.2. You think Beijing “doesn’t” know that? Beijing will knock you down and then kick you to get you back in line when they decide its time to reign in the speculative parade that threatens stability. That time seems to have arrived, so anyone who’s finances were on the edge are going to tumble. All of which has nothing to do with the overall health of the broader domestic economy and burgeoning private sector.

    This is not a commentary on China, the media does the same sh*t with everything, it.s a commentary on how not to be the sheep they want to brainwash you to be. You need to know who’s jerking you around V and you’ve got it backwards. Yourself using the words China’s disintegration” finally helps me realize you’re the shill on the board, not Gary. You’re just, perversely, one of them, too.

    What rich and corrupt people (or not) of any country don’t move their money all over the planet, to buy stuff in other countries? How is that news? Ms. Elizabeth’s article at The Diplomat asks about China controlling information and hiding stuff about uber wealthy Chinese people with attachments to the govt. Er um, yea what’s new under the sun please? Of course they try to control that information, rich folks and governments acting to protect themselves?…Come on, shocking revelation!

    Meanwhile, the refreshing joy of Spring has arrived! Glorious!

    Cheers, Mario

    $$$$$$$$

    Vlad: If your response is commensurately civil, I’ll run it. RA

  • EVIL VLAD March 21, 2014, 7:17 pm

    THE REAL REALITY DEFLATIONIST NEWS.
    march 20, 2014.

    more on china’s financial disintegration, now by leaps and bounds. DEFLATION worldwide.

    ‘cash-strapped chinese mega rich dumping their great real estate, to raise cash’

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/credit-tightens-home-chinese-sell-hong-kong-luxury-211105500–sector.html

    ‘china’s yuan crashing fast, leading to major losses for chinese investors’

    http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/03/20/chinas-yuan-falls-into-the-danger-zone/

    ‘china’s beige book says economy is stalling’

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-20/china-beige-book-says-economy-slowing.html?cmpid=yhoo

    ‘china stocks in full bear market’

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/why-china-s-bear-market-could-hurt-alibaba-s-ipo-164220458.html

    ‘corrupt wealthy chinese leaving china by boatload, to any country that will take them.’
    so there goes supposed ‘big’ shadow-economy down toilet, along with copper ‘sureties’.
    (crooked ussa will take anybody with big money, but canada has already rejected them,
    and australia is contemplating the same)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1wzgnl/as_war_on_corruption_mounts_chinas_rich_flee_to/

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101345275

    crooked chinese mega rich hide their bigger wealth worldwide, more than ussa mega rich.

    http://thediplomat.com/2014/01/the-political-plight-of-chinas-wealthy/

    chinese luxury buying down toilet in 2014, along with #1 sovereign wealth market fund=closed.

    https://www.evestment.com/news-events/industry-news/2014/01/27/chinese-sovereign-wealth-fund-backed-hf-shutting-down

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101380849

    http://www.china.org.cn/business/2014-01/17/content_31221611.htm

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    so yeah, things are going on ‘real well’ in wannabe superpower china, I can tell… haha.
    no wonder their gov. has to arm themselves to the hilt, to keep their wealthy from leaving!
    just like in shaka zulu obumba’s prison camp, ussa… but ussa prefers to spy on them, first.

    BOTTOMLINE–
    DEFLATION, EVERYWHERE.

  • allen42 March 21, 2014, 3:28 am

    I’ll stick to the real conclusion you are a total dipchit.

  • gary leibowitz March 21, 2014, 2:33 am

    Thanks RED for straightening this out. No increased tax for the upper bracket, no expiration of payroll tax holiday, no spending cuts due to sequester, unemployment benefits didn’t drop, no drawdown from war in Afghanistan. You are correct on one thing. Total government continued debt. It is a whopper.

    BUT to say that nothing changed is ridiculous. Ask Rick how his taxes increased in 2013. Ask Wall Street why they were so concerned on the stalemate that resulted in the sequester. No new revenue and reduced spending. Do you work for FOX? You should.

    Hey RED, the economic indicators are all faked. Especially the leading economic indicator that was up .5 percent. Yellen was announcing a possible early start in rate hikes because she just likes to see people squirm. Perhaps she didn’t get the real data. Maybe you should give her a call.

    Sequester, increased tax revenue are a given. In your mind we actually INCREASED the deficit in 2013? Maybe. I’ll stick to the silly conclusion that by increasing what you take in and reducing what you take out results in a positive result for that year against prior years.

  • EVIL VLAD March 21, 2014, 12:53 am

    REAL REALITY NEWS
    for march 20, 2014

    my ruskie razing ras-putin file is too big to report today. probably tomorrow.

    so I will note only 1 thing of interest.

    I watched yellen speak for few minutes. think she has early stage alzeimer’s.
    she had trouble remembering what she’d be saying next, every few seconds,
    filling gaps with looking away, and with ‘uhhs’ and ‘ahs’, every few seconds.
    however, she appeared, compared to benny beard, to be somewhat honest.
    and her comments appeared slightly hawkish. so, interesting times.
    when senile doves slowly turn to hawks, as they wither away, into oblivion.
    so how old is she, 100? for she looks it, and sounds it. damn ugly senile bird.

    • gary leibowitz March 21, 2014, 2:43 am

      Yellen is not a hawk, just a person that has all the data and trends lined up pretty nicely. The surge in leading indicator is not something you should take lightly. Ah, but here is the conundrum. To believe we are accelerating on the economic front destroys the absolute proven doctrine that it’s an impossibility. So I guess if we do get facts and figures disputing everyone’s claim that we can’t grow, this board will continue to ignore it.

      There is real concern that the FED will be helpless to control rising rates. They would love nothing better than to see another 5 years of sub-par growth. We can’t heal if we start to lend and borrow freely. Why Rick can’t see that increased borrowing can result in higher economic growth is beyond me. It is sustainable as long as creditors don’t come knocking. I don’t believe that knock will occur for a couple of years.

      &&&&&

      See Oregon’s post. You are beyond stupid. RA

  • Redwilldanaher March 21, 2014, 12:46 am

    Another lie that was trumpeted herein by el garo, but what will he say now that the truth is out?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-20/what-surprise-it-turns-out-they-lied-about-deficit-last-year

    • EVIL VLAD March 22, 2014, 4:19 pm

      red, I have not looked at your link, but ussa surely did lie about 2013 gdp, and bigtime
      (probably trying to ‘keep up with the joneses,’ china, the biggest liars of gdp of alltime),
      because ussa had to revise their original rosy 3.2% gdp estimate by a whopping 25%
      down to 2.4%, and btw, I read this several weeks ago.

      however now, this week, I read that even that 2.4% gdp growth in 2013 was also rosy,
      that is was really closer to 2.2%; and even worse, that the current 2014 projected gdp
      is around 1.8% (# which after they finish revising also, in 2015, it’ll be around 1%.

      which is roughly what europe has now (which is also probably another confabulation),
      since europe has an (admitted, but who knows what’s true) unemployment of aprox 12%,
      so how can you have any growth in gdp, when you have an admitted 12% unemployment?

  • Chuck March 20, 2014, 6:50 pm

    does this have to do with China? 2 silver stock companies with opposite stock price trends……

    SLW Silver Wheaton Corp 25.26 +0.21 +0.84% — 2.4M +25.11%
    SVM Silvercorp Metals Inc 2.09 -0.03 -1.42% — 841.1K -8.73%

  • mava March 20, 2014, 6:05 am

    Although that always was my point too, Mario (that his intentions are far from Noble), that approach, I believe, should be reserved for the judgment of a person. When it is the action that requires our judgment, instead, then the intentions don’t matter, as asking of them and knowing them obstruct the justice.

    What was fair for Falklands, Kosovo and hundreds of other annexations and referendums should surely be fair for Crimea.

    While on the subject, aren’t you noticing how unbelievably stupid Putin’s opponents are? Yatsuk decided to tax the people to death, stealing their already taxed deposits now, besides everything else he is doing (busy robbing liquor plant today, btw). In the meantime, Putin is already issuing Russian passports in Crimea and guaranteeing all the Ukrainian Social Liability and then some on top to bring them up to the level of Russia.

    And what is the purpose for Yatsuk to tax the people? He is raising an army. Getting ready for war, I wonder?
    Si vis pacem, para bellum. Or did he not go to school at all? He would do himself a favor if he first could figure out how to make a good face. Or may-be the Romans were just plain dumb, I guess.

    So, when the industrial Donetsk and Lugansk regions get their referendum next, do you think they’ll vote to be taxed by Yatsuk and stabbed by his Nazi friends?

  • mario March 20, 2014, 3:16 am

    Hijacking Ricks topic is not cool, I’m not happy I instigated that this time, my apology Rick.

    An excellent read on Crimea-Russia-Ukraine, the latest from nadeem wayalat at Marketoracle.co.uk, indeed that Putin’s intentions are far from noble.

    Cheers, Mario

  • EVIL VLAD March 20, 2014, 1:16 am

    ok.
    I’ll put aside my hatred for this site’s tapeworm ‘china syndrome’ cheap used car salesman.
    besides, the host wholly erases 90% of what I write against him/her, he protects him/her.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    so here is the best of
    REAL REALITY NEWS
    for march 2014
    from ‘prechter’s prodders.’

    but before I get into ‘prechter’s prodders’, here is a 12 minute video from late 2013,
    from one of the best proven ussa historical predictors of all time, gerald celente.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ERfxWouXs&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA&index=3

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    from now on, only prechter’s prodders.
    prodders of wholesale huge world deflation forthwith, that is.

    junk bonds getting junkier than 2007, yet, suckers buying them by truckload–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/13/Junk-Bond-Quality-Hits-Record-Low-Danger-Zone-for-High-Yield-Investors.aspx#axzz2vxtLdmar

    18% yearly producer seth klarman, doing it for THIRTY years, once again, tells it as it is–

    “When the markets reverse, everything investors thought they knew will be turned upside down and inside out. ‘Buy the dips’ will be replaced with ‘what was I thinking?’… Anyone who is poorly positioned and ill-prepared will find there’s a long way to fall. Few, if any, will escape unscathed.”

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/14/High-Risk-Stock-Market–Few-Will-Escape-Unscathed-.aspx#axzz2vxtPPxEe

    believe it or not, sociological mass trends, do tell a story, of impending doom, for all–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/14/Are-You-Naked-and-Afraid-in-the-Stock-Market.aspx#axzz2vxtQrdEr

    huge ego huge skyscrapers have a long history of portraying huge market tops–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/11/This-Economic-Indicator-has-a-History-of-Calling-Major-Turns.aspx#axzz2vxtcU4xe

    ussa malls going down the bankrupt manure-hole, along with many retail store big names–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/18/The-Verdict-at-the-Food-Court-Bankruptcy.aspx#axzz2wQtRgnWx

    commodities already showing worse symptoms of collapse in PRICE than 2008, 2011–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/14/Commodities-A-Checklist-for-an-Exhausted-Trend.aspx#axzz2wQtc53oU

    and to end on tragic note, as I like, even murder of the most honest ussa pres of all time,
    jfk, did not alter markets one bit, because markets will go as per mass mood, nothing else–

    http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2014/03/06/What-If-the-Devil-Divulged-Big-News-Beforehand.aspx#axzz2wQvID3N6

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I will go back to putin and his ukraine tomorrow, if I am still alive, as I surely will be. ha.
    for the evil live forever.

    • mario March 20, 2014, 3:05 am

      V why don’t you say something constructive for a change. You live to feed on the miserable truth of bad news, the need to feel good that you are right, it is all going to hell.

      Toast your drink, hold your glass up high with joy and thanks and relief that I inform you of the strengths in China’s economy. As I’ve said and Gary noted above, their strength is helping to prevent the disaster whose arrival you seem to savor.

      New inventory just in; ’86 300ZX, mint, garaged, granny driven, only 30k miles, $15k a steal, must sell to pay off unemployed grandson’ s college loan.

      • John Jay March 21, 2014, 3:25 am

        Mario,

        I don’t know if you were kidding about the mint 300ZX with only 30k on the clock.
        I actually saw one on ebay a while back with only about 6k on the clock.
        The guy had a reserve of $15,000 and there was spirited bidding, but it stalled around $12,500.
        I think it might bring 15k at an actual auction, but who can tell.

        My 86 300ZX just turned 407,000 miles on the clock.
        I’ve put about 7k into it in the past 5 years and I am almost finished restoring it.
        I had to get the transmission rebuilt at 400k and all that is left now is the HVAC, heater core and AC compressor.
        Then I want to get a 10 or 12 year old convertible sports car and keep the 300ZX for rainy days
        You can get a low mileage Jaguar XKR/XK8, 2003 vintage for about 10k or so.
        Yeah, I know, a Jag convertible is an MG-B times 10 for repair problems/costs!
        Maybe a low mileage 350Z is best.
        But a green Jag convertible is so beautiful!
        We’ll see, I’ll let you know.

      • mario March 21, 2014, 7:50 am

        JJ! I was jesting but based on some reality. When I lived in the states through the nineties I was the matter of buying awesome mint used cars in the $3k range, always sold them 1-2 years later for what I paid. My 86 300zx was bought for 3200, had 147k on the odometer, looked brand new from head to toe, sold out to a friend who unfortunately totaled it six months later… Cheers, Mario

      • EVIL VLAD March 22, 2014, 9:50 pm

        hey, talking old vehicles, have any of you had an entire wheel ride off your old car
        while driving at 80 kph, just fly off, so 3 wheel drive then, but still drive, 1k further?
        I did once. ha. and when I finally parked, I said, what the fah? where’s the frggn wheel?
        never found it, going back 1/2 hour later. somebody stole it, wheel and tire. fast crook.

  • gary leibowitz March 19, 2014, 8:24 pm

    Rumor has it that we will never taper. I heard it here first. Suicide to do so. Glad I keep up with the “real” news.

    I will reiterate that a China slowdown can and will have reaching affects on the rest of the world. The concern is real. they have supplied the big economic push when we needed it the most. Not sure today if the slowdown will cause minor or major harm. I suspect domestic momentum will offset, somewhat, the China drag. As for China’s ability to “control” the soft landing, it hasn’t been proven they can succeed. Welcome to a capitalist economy, even if it is under the Oligarchy regime. They will be tested. I wonder which one wins out?

    • gary leibowitz March 19, 2014, 10:19 pm

      Hawkish Yellen? Who would have guessed. Third taper, expecting rate hikes in 2015. 55 now. Wasn’t it 85 billion not long ago?

      Did anyone here see this coming? Looks like she sees inflation just might be coming soon. I am 100 percent sure she is not blowing smoke on this statement. She can of course revise that as the year goes on.

      I argued this point but got ridiculed for even mentioning a possible rate hike. Deflation just might take a back seat until it once gain asserts itself when defaults rise. The 10 Year note might be a problem if it goes above 3 percent. Gold got shot down, in my view.

      As for Russia, the Obama administration early statements gave us a clue that this is a non-issue where everyone has already agreed to this outcome.

      The markets hate change. Just look at the last 5 years. If the weather did play a stronger role than anticipated, watch out for a bumpy ride. Muddled numbers has been the theme since the crash.

      I am now on watch for a breakdown of trend. Still not expecting one, but recent news domestically and with China can change that view very quickly. Exited all bets till I see clarity.

      &&&&&&

      You and Krugman, along with the shiftless hacks who package the news, are about the only guys I know who believe ‘tightening’ is actually occurring merely because the Fed says so. We’ll know the tightening is real when the Deflationary Black Hole represented by a quadrillion dollar derivatives market starts to tighten. Actually, I’ll lower the bar for you: We’ll know the tightening is real when 30-year mortgages hit 4%. Our Depression-bound economy can no more withstand real tightening than a quadriplegic with Lou Gehrig’s Disease could withstand a doubling in the pull of gravity. RA

      • Oregon March 20, 2014, 1:14 am

        Nice job Gary, only you could pat yourself on the back for the outside chance of being correct over a year from now.

      • gary leibowitz March 20, 2014, 11:14 pm

        Actually I have been right for a wee bit longer. I will reiterate my long standing stance. Given enough time the trillions spent on propping up the economy will pay off. Sure looks that way to me. In fact the leading indicator surged today.

        I was told that the last 5 years produced nothing, and world governments have conspired to keep the truth from us. In my mind as long as you have a central government willing to support at all costs the economy, it would take an enormous amount of negative pull to throw that away. The pull is just not there. Housing is favorable today, borrowing rates are near historic lows, jobs stable, old consumer habits getting back in step.

        Facts: Corporations have managed to make handsome profits these last 5 years and still manage to create enough jobs to support their growth. Government intervention has created a safety net for investors. Lending and borrowing are coming back towards the heyday.

        The only total agreement I have with everyone is the huge ever increased debt burden will eventually break this economy. My timetable has been a lot longer than anyone else’s. Maybe Mario sees a longer time frame then I. I still expect another 8 percent rise from here, as Rick’s possible outcome attests to. I also expect a decent 20 percent drop this year after that top has been reached. Stretched earnings expectation, China slow down, and rising rates could be the catalyst.

        I am not surprised Yellen announced her concern for raising rates. I take her for her word without assuming any hidden agenda. Deflation has never taken hold for long stretches, no matter how vicious it got. I expect we will start seeing real concern for inflation soon, even though it can never be sustainable in this environment. I believe the vicious deflation cycle is one to two years in front of us. Mild inflation scare followed by a wicked deflation cycle with defaults hitting hard. Just one mans guess.

        For now though there is no denying that things are about to heat up. The winter thaw has built up enough momentum to carry us higher for a while yet.

        Rick assumes this economy can’t handle real tightening. Well QE will be gone soon barring any dramatic change. Rates will be rising, based on bond yield trajectory and a housing market that refuses to die, even in the tough winter months. Consumer borrowing is once again on a tear and banks are now willing to oblige. Yes I believe we can withstand rising rates to a degree. Yes I believe the Fed has already tightened based on a surge in tax revenue and slowdown in spending. Just look at all of 2013 and tell me where the surplus came from? You can argue all you want that real spending has not been coming down, but when comparing oranges to oranges it has.

        Can the Fed step aside? Not likely. They can slow their rate of spending by a lot if lending and borrowing comes back to the high pace it once was. In the long run this will be devastation. I only talk about the immediate future. Heck, I complained in the 80’s when housing took off along with the explosion of credit. It sure takes a long time to see that straw that caused the camels back to break. I give it another 2 years tops for this next back breaking event to occur.

        I argue over timing, not eventual outcome. I also argue that this economy will rebound from any new disaster, and will actually be stronger because of it. The 30’s disaster has produced an new era far beyond the peak of the roaring 20’s. We stumble but always get up and manage to move forward. Will this time truly be different? I hope not.

      • Oregon March 21, 2014, 6:47 am

        gary, what you should say is, “Actually I have been patting myself on the back a wee bit longer.” That is correct.

        What you are right about is the data you regurgitate which begets more patting which begets more regurgitation.

        Everything you spew is true and at the same time total bullshit. Yes the trillions spent have ‘propped up the economy’ and when they stop being spent it will topple over. You are right and it is bullshit.

        Corporations have made handsome profits, but have not made enough good jobs to support much of anything.

        Glad you agree that the exponential debt will cripple the economy, at least you are not totally blind. But, somehow you think everything is peachy until it is crippled. Somehow, you think an 18 year old with no job and a 5 grand credit limit is wealthy, and even after he maxes the credit you still think he is wealthy until after he has defaulted, then there is a problem, maybe. And if mom and dad have made the minimum payments for over 5 years, then everything is alright. And if he gets a part time job and starts paying the minimum plus an extra 5 dollars a month, well then things are really humming. Future so bright.

  • mario cavolo March 19, 2014, 9:42 am

    Actually, Gary and all, I realize something very important that I will state in terms of view bias.

    Most of the folks on this site and many people in the west views the stream of news and events with a deeply negatively biased eye.

    Why? Because your side of the planet is in serious decline. That’s fair to say. You are all so mind boggled and exasperated that the world economy, the U.S. economy, China, etc. haven’t collapsed yet, so your bias is causing you to constantly look for the black swan that will bring the next disaster. Many western people are in a nutshell, grasping at the straws of any negative headlines that come along, deeply needing to seek blame and achieve resolution. And so, you grab on to and sensationalize anything negative, to justify your knowing that a disaster must happen, should happen, needs to happen and is about to happen.

    This is the constant bias underlying most of what I read here at Ricks, including by Rick himself, and in the general western media.

    And this observation which suddenly came upon me this hour well serves me to understand why certain people simply can’t accept anything positive or rational at all; your brain and emotions are too busy needing to filter grab at headline negatives to “finally” be able to achieve the frustrated satisfaction of being able to say, “See, we told you it was all screwed up and gonna crash!” It also helps me to understand the absolute irrational idiotic stupidity of response I get from many people when I report China’s state of affairs as the biggest, fattest, richest, freakin’ bad ass growing, expanding country on the planet. Its very unsettling to our emotions to accept that, it is unsettling to our daily need for daily constancy and stability to witness such a massive flipflop of power in our lifetime. I’ve read no author who better, thoughtfully and respectfully describes the decline and disintegration of what America was than Thomas Friedman. There is much to be upset about.

    Here in this post though, I am focusing on the bias, that I am noticing it, not the actual underlying concerns and frustrations, of which indeed we all know there are plenty.

    Cheers, Mario

    • redwilldanaher March 19, 2014, 4:07 pm

      Leaving most of what you wrote aside Mario, I’ve asked you a few times about ghost cities in China etc. You’ve taken exception with the claim while admitting that the Chinese elites are nearly as corrupt as their Amerikan counterparts. However, I’ve never doubted that China was growing. I think they’re fraudulent just like Amerikans.

      What many and possibly you fail to understand about people like me that are “exasperated” as you describe it, is that we’re not cheering against success, we’re actually rooting against evil. So I’m not exasperated, I’m disgusted that the enslavers continue to triumph. Raise your glass to toast with them if you will, I’ll have none of it.

    • mario March 20, 2014, 2:52 am

      Hi RWD, you make an important distinction, rooting against evil and cheering for success is the frame of mind of a rational, intelligent man.

      Magically, the ghost town stories have faded into the ether of meaningless drivel, I’ve always clarified they are no more than a few isolated situations. There is definitely oversupply currently but the market is clearly not in a threat situation and the oversupply will be occupied in the coming five years as China’s urbanization continues, barring a major shift in direction for China’s economy. Expect slowdown and more stories of failures but that’s not indicative of the big long-term picture…

      Any reasonable person would be happy to hear any country is doing relatively well, especially the biggest. ones.

      Rich people for the most part, very selfish folks the world over.

      Cheers, Mario

  • VILE VLAD March 19, 2014, 12:55 am
    • mario cavolo March 19, 2014, 7:40 am

      Oh God! These are HORROR charts? You’re killin’ me here. All those charts say is that China is slowing. We already know that! Beijing is making policy and reform choice to MAKE it slow. It is deliberate, controlled management, and while parts of it certainly can get ugly along the way, they are in far better situation than any other large sovereign entity to manage it.

      China is doing what it needs to do and should do for the long term, for stability and THAT’S why everyone’s worried? Good grief people, you should be glad to read they are pushing reform even though it slows things down. Heaven forbid they should do the right thing. We should all completely understand and agree that China cracking down on corruption, pollution, rule of law, reigning in speculators is what is necessary and will slow growth. All such initiatives are definitely a balancing act to manage. And no govt can manage more flexibly than Beijing. They are playing long term and they are freakin’ winning at the table. In that sense, it is quite sensible to feel nervous and afraid of China’s moves. Rome is falling and Asia is rising, in our lifetimes…scary stuff.

      Is the United States govt doing what it needs to do and should do? Put our clowns in charge in Beijing and what would they do? If the U.S. cracked down to reform its myriad forms of corruption, the Rick’s crowd would be cheering. Right or wrong?

      Cheers, Mario

  • gary leibowitz March 18, 2014, 3:39 am

    Has anyone seen the discussion with Marc Faber? He discusses China and Russia.

    China slowed down to 4 percent growth, half of their official announcement. “Total debt is now over 215 percent of GDP, and a lot of it is trade finance that is being rolled over.” Industrial commodities will remain under pressure and our economy will be adversely affected. “Well I think that we had a colossal credit bubble in China and that this credit bubble is now being gradually deflated and will bring about problems in the real estate market and among some major players in the commodity markets as well.” He explains further on why he sees such a dramatic slowdown in China: “So overall, if I look at export figures from China, and they are very closely correlated to overall economic growth, then there is a huge discrepancy between what China reports and what China’s trading partners are reporting”

    On Russia his take is that they did the right thing to protect their strategic interests. Doesn’t see any further move on their part. Basically a non-issue going forward. Our administration has been playing down the Crimea takeover, and it makes sense that we already acknowledge and accept such a move. I suspect the so called sanctions will be mild in comparison.

    I generally agree with his analysis. The revamp of pent up demand in the United States, due to very bad weather, should initially offset the China affect. Not sure for how long though. I suspect Mario will defend his position that China has no problem. I am also pretty sure he will be proven wrong. Marc is a pretty astute player. I place my money on his analysis.

    http://www.safehaven.com/article/33135/marc-faber-chinas-unwind-will-be-a-disaster

    • mario cavolo March 18, 2014, 6:53 am

      Its not Crimea so I’ll keep it short. Its just too easy to address such things reasonably and logically; we should often wonder that these s0-called experts just might even have their own agendas, such as certain long or short positions, etc.

      Yes exports are down, nothing unexpected. It just means less than he is trying to imply. Its incredibly annoying when a guru says things which are patently, factually incorrect. Mr. Marc states “So overall, if I look at export figures from China, and they are very closely correlated to overall economic growth”. Export are NOT any longer at all CLOSELY correlated to overall economic growth in China. Period. Exports, industrial, manufacturing, infrastructure investment are all a rapidly shrinking % of total China GDP while the private sector is now THE largest % of China GDP. On the ground here, my own eyes bear this out.

      CLSA is one of the world’s top investment bank research firms with local, constant research on China. CLSA’s clients are the big investment banks like JP Morgan, GS, who rely on what they say to make their investment allocation decisions. I have their internal PDF China report in hand.

      CLSA reports to its very important investment bank clients that “China’s exports now represent only an 11% share of total China industrial sales.” Ergo, lower exports mean less than they did yesterday. I don’t think CLSA wants to be wrong about such things. Enough for today.

      I am quite curious about Crimea and how Putin’s relationship with China will be an influence, not much about that in the news these days.

      Cheers, Mario

    • gary leibowitz March 19, 2014, 12:28 am

      Mario, It isn’t just Faber that is warning about Chinas current health. China is also warnings. Debt is getting out of hand even though it’s nothing compared to us. Give them as much time under a capitalist economy and they will be visiting our problems in 25 years. With real estate and other outrageous ventures by China you can’t seriously tell me a slowdown will not hurt the rest of the world. I guess their warnings have some ulterior motive? You are a bit biased and seem to dismiss all negative press. Your view that pollution isn’t really a major problem there is also disputed by everyone. Do you not see this?

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/13/us-china-parliament-idUSBREA2C09L20140313

      • mario cavolo March 19, 2014, 5:13 am

        Hi Gary, you’re spot on with your last comments. I am NOT spouting my opinion or bias. I am updating and clarifying the state of affairs, which the media and its gurus consistently report incorrectly. They still talk about the China of five years ago. This is the consistent basis of what I publish.

        You said it yourself exactly right, when you drill down, their debt problems and financial system are nowhere near the level and types of issues in the west. That’s a huge reality to understand considering what’s at stake. That’s all I’ve been saying all along.
        Yes, there ARE concerns, I would never suggest otherwise. I will credit living and doing biz in China with teaching me to be a realist and pragmatist. Its brutally competitive here.

        Apologies, I think I know what you’re referring to regarding my comments on pollution in China. In context I was criticizing how the media sensationalizes it but it indeed it a genuine, serious problem, no one could suggest otherwise…

        I can’t let an article be patently misleading or incorrect. When a guy like Faber says China is hugely reliant on exports, its patently false today. A decline in exports today is FAR less important and will have far less of an impact than five years ago. Yet people believe him because he’s a guru on TV, that’s dangerous and that’s what I fight against.

        The rebalancing of China’s economy is going smashingly well, while in doing so it will experience plenty of volatility and headline bankruptcies along the way.

        Let’s play a media game. Let’s say I’m the Chief Editor of the Wall Street Journal. I’m going to publish the following articles on MarketWatch.

        China’s Private Sector Now Larger Than Manufacturing
        China Private Sector 3X More Profitable Than SOEs
        China Private Sector Now Employs 390 Million
        China’s Exports Decline to Only 11% of Total Industrial Sales
        China SOE’s Shrinking Total of China GDP
        China Auto Sales #1 Worldwide Indicate Domestic Strength
        China RE Bubble Prices Found Only In 10% of Total RE Market
        China Incomes Rising In Line With Home Prices Across 90% of China
        Slowing China Growth Still Adds 700 Billion To GDP Each Year
        China’s Shadow Cash Economy 3-5x Larger Than U.S. Shadow Economy
        China Shadown Banking Shaky But Only 15% of Total China Banking
        China Real Urban Income Up 143% This Decade, U.S. Real Urban Income Flat In Same Decade

        Those are NOT my opinion, those would be if we would fortunate enough to see them, accurate headlines, not my opinion, but its a cold day in hell before we’d ever see them due to bias, due to the negative U.S. Sino relationship, people don’t want to hear so much good news when their own situation is not.

        And for the umpteenth time, China does not want you to know what’s really going on, how well they are really doing. That’s exactly how they operate, that’s exactly how they like it.

        Very important stuff for all of us to understand, but off topic, apologies Rick.

        Cheers, Mario

  • John Jay March 18, 2014, 2:42 am

    If I remember correctly, didn’t the USA/NATO do exactly what the Russians just did with the Crimea to tear Kosovo away from Serbia back in the days of Slick Willie?
    Held a plebiscite only in Kosovo to determine if they should go their own way, apart from Serbia?
    With lots of spooky mercenaries and Jason Bourne types running amuck?
    No mention of that in our MSM.

    Who knows what the Stock Market will do. Between the Fed manipulations, hot money fleeing here from China, and God knows what else, anything is possible. Mostly it just seems to go sideways after a 30,000 contracts buy order in 15 seconds levitates it, until the next 30,000 contracts buy order is needed.

    Seems to be well under control by TPTB. Probably a good thing too, otherwise TARP II will be needed.
    Who knows what that would cost us?

    • mario cavolo March 18, 2014, 3:06 am

      Thanks JJ for triggering a thought. Plenty of cash of wealthy Chinese, old and nouveau, is heading out of the country, makes a lot of sense they would put some of it in the U.S. markets once the money arrives there and its easy for them to do that.

      Recently read another article about how retailers in Macau (12x the gambling volume of Vegas) openly allows mainland visitors to use their retail terminals as cash machines. They’re not supposed to by law but everyone ignores the laws, that’s how the money is easily getting out of the country.

      Which makes me wonder, getting back on topic, how it seems the U.S. is constantly quietly feeding support including lots of cash to its puppets to influence happenings. I don’t know how accurate the stories are but the pattern is clear of the U.S. getting in bed with some nasty folks to manipulate their Ukraine agenda…

      Cheers, Mario

      • John Jay March 18, 2014, 3:57 pm

        Mario,

        Remember those pallets of $100 bills that were airlifted to Iraq to smooth things over during that war?
        Looting

        Our entire Government/Economy has been engineered to enable maximum looting at every turn.
        While the Corporations/Oligarchs reap the benefits as befits their FOG status.
        (Friends Of Government)
        And the 90% of Americans get the shaft.

        Trillion dollar Fed backed Student Loan debt?
        Looting
        Budget busting Medicare costs?
        Looting.
        (Medicare does not negotiate prices, they pay 5k for a 1k “mobility scooter” etc.)
        MIC, F-22, F-35 etc.?
        Looting
        Government enabled MBS industry?
        Looting
        Open Borders?
        Looting

        That one word explains the destruction of our once mighty America.
        Looting!

  • EVIL VLAD March 18, 2014, 12:41 am

    THE REAL REALIST NEWS,
    all about putin’s already-owned ukraine–

    1. ‘the russians are not finished’

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/russia-doesn-t-care-about-sanctions–eurasia-group-s-willis-sparks-124946471.html

    2. ‘russia could turn ussa to ash’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101499208

    3. ‘attackers could black out entire ussa’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101491130

    4. ‘3 billion for ukraine go straight to russia’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101491011

    5. ‘opposition drowned as putin’s popularity soars’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101497496

    6. ‘ussa puny natural gas exports won’t threaten russia’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101481288?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cinline%7Cstory%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=101499467%7CWill%20the%20Crimea%20relief%20ra

    7. ‘puny sanctions by weak funny punk puny kenyan ussa president means nothing’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101481677

    8. ‘we sanction tougher and faster for any reason, even for car speeding tickets, says putin’

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-13/putin-deports-executives-for-speeding-as-sanctions-loom.html

    enough?

    and watch out this weekend, for if ukraine signs agreement friday to try to go eu,
    well, putin will move to plan a. BIG disruption. and if it doesn’t do you job, then– plan b.
    BLASTIN time.
    as all of ukrania will be his, one way or another.
    and you can bank on it, unless you kill him.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    meanwhile, the good ol ussa, continues its ways, to spy on all others, via its lying trickeries.

    ‘nsa posing as popular sites, to steal all your computer’s data’

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101492290

    • Chuck March 18, 2014, 3:10 am

      vlad vlad vlad…..you are bringing tidings of goodwill russian style…..and of course our stock market goes up up up……..what goes up must come down……..??

      • VILE VLAD March 19, 2014, 1:09 am

        chuck, I bring no news, but real news.
        putin is not over with ukraine.
        he will own it all, before all’s done.

        but putin plays today’s lying game.
        ‘no, we won’t take crimea by force’, he says.
        so all the sleeper ussa investors get happy.
        yet, he took it, with 96% vote. so back in the ussr.
        while limp pansy ussa pres. ‘warned of sanctions.’
        same with now. putin says,’ I don’t want all ukraine.’
        yeah, right.
        but he will take it piece by piece, maybe just like he took crimea. son.
        so putin ain’t done, and that’s for sure. so he will take all of ukraine,
        probably before 2014 is done. and negro pansy in the white house, will be ignored.
        as he already is, worldwide, by almost all nations. jefferson would kill himself,
        if he saw what the great free nation he created, was destroyed by an [inept, closet-commie cretin]

  • mava March 17, 2014, 9:14 pm

    Secondly, being not really a subject of the article, the author point to Putin almost violently annexing Crimea? This is simply not true. The Ukraine is about to lose Crimea, because its own citizens do not want to remain subject of Ukraine.

    Similarly, if someone had made such a referendum in USSR in 1990, the whole union may have voted to be annexed by US.

    US just cannot allow the people to see that this is how the State of Texas should resolve its desire to become an independent country. It is asking itself, “who’s next?”.

    But, there were no force other than idly standing by in case the Ukraine decides that it doesn’t care about the will of the people.

    Definitely, Putin is not fair. He would not do the same in Chechnya. But, in this particular incident, it is foolish to talk about an invasion, unless we are considering the Ukraine as a Monarchy where no one has any right to secede.

    Obama will gladly note that *all* people of Ukraine should have taken vote, but that would be a deception. Say Texas is voting to secede, what right have I, living in California, to decide on their fate?

    • Marc March 17, 2014, 11:09 pm

      Speaking as a Texan, I think that vote may come someday. It would never happen under the status quo, but in a world where the U.S. economy has collapsed and federal entitlements go up in smoke like the Ponzi schemes they are, it might no longer be far-fetched. I’m sure a lot of other southern and western states would give it due thought, as well.

      &&&&

      The mainstream media treat secessionists as they would those claiming to have been abducted by aliens. But I agree, this is only because we are still living in more or less ‘normal’ times. Someday, however, the economic storm now gathering Category 5 force will wipe the silly smile from the faces of the mostly left-wing imbeciles who shape the news. Then there will come a day when seceding from the Union will seem right as rain. RA

      • redwilldanaher March 18, 2014, 3:13 pm

        I’ve been pushing secession for about 2 decades but I’m a poor salesman. I hope that the small momentum that is in place to continues to grow. I’ve made this argument here and many other places many times. There is but one way to handle a bully. You must confront him and bloody him. Otherwise the bully will always push, push, push and eventually will treat you like a citizen of Nanking. It’s the same as the saw regarding dealmaking; you have to be willing to walk away from the negotiating table or you’ve got nothing.

  • mava March 17, 2014, 9:04 pm

    Nice article, and yes, the sentiment on the bluff does make sense, but in general, the author seems to propose that not only the internal strength wins peace, but also the necessary alliances.

    I would disagree with such a sentiment because a bickering member of some murderous alliance is not what America was supposed to be. It is enough to be able to project strength in defense of its own territory, but allowing itself to be marred in international alliances is a sure way to destruction either by being subjected or by subjecting others.

    While the international law is obviously a joke, and had hardly been a secret at that, no one should ever having to die for anything else than his own property.

    Attempting to control everything leads to the same sorrow as the attempt to control nothing, the survival has its essence in balance.

  • Rick Ackerman March 17, 2014, 8:17 pm

    Recalling Japan’s invasion of Manchuria, commentator Daniel Greenfield (aka ‘Sultan Knish’) notes that “We have been living on bluff and Putin called it.” His trenchant, notable essay, “The End of International Law,” can be found by clicking here.

  • C.C. March 17, 2014, 6:02 pm

    Not to carry on too much here but… Nave SEALS have ‘seized’ a Libyan oil tanker – apparently because it/they were going to try and sell oil on the open market – against Heaven’s rules of $Petrodollar hegemony…

    Now then, imagine Navy SEALS – on orders from Captain America (and his dutiful servant, ‘Swiftboat’), seizing Gazprom pipelines as Russia decides to play tit-for-tat…

    Don’t worry, ain’t gonna happen…

  • C.C. March 17, 2014, 5:30 pm

    Do not underestimate the will or capability of a nation who has undergone ~extreme~ hardship in recent human history, to be prepared to undergo it again, albeit likely short in duration this time around, given the deck of cards on the table.

    The United States on the other hand…? Stock markets? Portfolios? Entertainment? Vacations? Retirements?

    Americans in general, tend not to think things through about many things, in my humble estimation.

    Rick, you probably saw this already, but Grampa Jim had an ‘interesting’ (to say the least) interview with Greg Hunter yesterday. usawatchdog dot com

  • Chuck March 17, 2014, 5:07 pm

    can anyone explain this discrepancy?
    Company Price Change % Change P/E Volume YTD change
    SLW Silver Wheaton Corp 26.47 -0.21 -0.79% — 1.2M +31.30%
    SVM Silvercorp Metals Inc 2.26 -0.04 -1.74% — 353.1K -1.31%

  • mava March 17, 2014, 4:39 pm

    Obama continues to pose before cameras as a complete idiot, repeating that the US will not recognize Crimean referendum (because it was truly democratic? – one is tempted to ask). Instead of cutting losses and restoring the good face by wishing Crimea well, or then biting Putin bitterly by asking him if he is going to offer the same referendum in blood clotted Chechnya, or Ingushetia, or Adygea (it would be cool to hear how the dictator loses his oh so democratic face), the dummy keeps talking about sanctions.

    So, they have announced in Russia that they have cashed over a hundred billion of USD of treasuries just to remind the US who is paying its bills. R.A., is this any true? If the Russians are right, then they are saying that they can cash upwards of one trillion a hundred billion at the time until the west get conscious again.

    May-be this is what investors hear and worry about, whether true or not.

    • EVIL VLAD March 17, 2014, 11:24 pm

      putin wants ukraine, period. all of it. and he will get it, one way or another. war included.

      and as to idiot obumba and cameras, how much more idiotic, than his interview with a comic,
      ‘between 2 ferns,’ that I found by accident yesterday, I mean, this is THE PRES of USSA,
      dealing with some idiot comic, for what, attention, I don’t know.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW3xkHxIEQ

      &&&&&&

      The purpose of the interview was to persuade young people they can benefit from Obamacare. If even five of them signed up as a result of this show, then 20-somethings are a lot dumber than I had imagined. RA

      • mava March 18, 2014, 12:39 am

        So, according to Sinclair, it’s the sanctions including the removal of Putin from SWIFT, then the announcement that he accepts any currency for gas and oil, then probably SEALs in his office as our interest rates go sky-high, and if he can press the button before having a Qadaffi style encounter with a rusted pipe, then we all go up in smoke?

        Not a pretty scenario. And all that is over letting some folks choose which country they want to be taxed by?

  • Chuck March 17, 2014, 4:19 pm

    well, as of 10:15am EST……
    Dow 16,249.01 +183.34 +1.14%
    Nasdaq 4,292.87 +47.47 +1.12%
    S&P 500 1,860.08 +18.95 +1.03%
    10 Year Yield 2.68% +0.03 —
    Gold $1,377.90 -1.10 -0.08%
    Oil $98.56 -0.33 -0.33%

    • Jason S March 17, 2014, 9:11 pm

      Chuck, the money is flowing from somewhere. Is it overseas investors seeking safety or is it Central Bank dollars? Since money market funds are at near all-time lows and bull/bear fund spreads are also, this isn’t money that was on the sidelines.

  • BDTR March 17, 2014, 4:08 pm

    P: Knock, knock.
    O: Who’s there?
    P: Crimea
    O: Crimea who?
    P: Crimea river.

    How exactly, Rick, does Putin’s response qualify as ‘brazen’?

    It’s the party-line characterization of our commander in disbelief and his transmogrified alien sidekick at State, and in no way describes what’s been arguably responsive to real threat of violence from reckless engagement of neo-fascist provocateurs in taking down a weak regime in Kiev.

    It’s textbook CIA method repeated endlessly for over half a century. In this geo-political instance simply paving the way for the CFR initiative ‘brazenly’ articulated at weak public moments of hubris by Bzrezinski, among Kissinger ‘others’, who stress the need to ‘co-opt’ sovereign Russia to accomplish the NWO prime objective: Ultimate occidental /Anglo American dominion.

    Putin’s done nothing but pragmatic response to protect ethnic Russian population as borne out in yesterday’s referendum.

    It’s embarrassing what’s ensued in revealing just exactly how transparently cynical and extreme is the pretense to sacred democratic principle in our government’s conduct. A policy monolith, I should note, that extends back to post-WWII US cold war creation, to GHWB in it’s final phase of NWO initiation.

    The only question is: how reckless in fallacy and opportunistic in contrivance are they willing to get towards their singular ambition of irresistible, global hegemony?

    Enlisting extreme goon fascists is a pretty good indication.

    &&&&&&

    Between the landslide vote and your post, I’ve found ample reason to remove the word ‘brazen’ from the first sentence. Meanwhile, the botched response we should have feared is under way as I write these words.
    RA

    • BDTR March 17, 2014, 4:17 pm
      • VILE VLAD March 19, 2014, 2:12 am

        bdtr, I just saw your 10 minute youtube link. it is so complex, in terms of deception,
        that it goes way beyond anything I imagined. plot counterplots within. amazing.
        wheel within wheel of lies tricks subterfuge, turned into bright pennies for masses.
        who are these people, stormcloudsgathering? probably another cia arm, IMO.
        otherwise how do they know so much. but it smacks real, the real way of the world.
        can tell from this, that despite my cynicism, I am a novice on political matters.

        good to see machiavelli is alive and well. for all is what it is not, and viceversa.
        whatever.

      • mario cavolo March 19, 2014, 7:44 am

        BDTR, the video…wow, a scary world we live in, at the mercy of the games of those in power….Cheers, Mario

      • Craig March 19, 2014, 8:09 pm

        Vlad,

        (from last week) I agree with you on most issues so you don’t need to argue over stuff that you don’t think I know. Your just missing some key pieces of info.

        All, Rick, Vlad and Mario,

        Ukraine is a NATO set up to see which units Russia uses (top ones) to pit down the rebellion. This situation is much like if Russia was financing Cuba into taking over Guantamino Bay and the US defended it’s naval base there. This action also allows Putin to be more authoritarian in his own country (outside threat). NATO (globalists) also wants Russia best units tied up so NATO can poke at Syria and Iran without Russian interference. Most likely a Saudi/ Isreal strike on Iran at some point.

        So for Mario and last weeks topic and this….this is a chess match with the pawns Ukraine, Syria and iran to be used to set up the big move of letting china and Russia strike the US with nukes. With the US in a full war with China and Russia with it’s Nuclear capabilities crippled in 6-10 years…Mario do you really think China will allow an American to live in China during that?

        Mava

      • Craig March 19, 2014, 8:17 pm

        Mava,

        Do you really think China will allow Americans to live in Asian countries under their control after they are in a full war? Do you think China is building a huge blue water navy, stealth fighters and a huge amphibious attack force for giggles? They want the US out of East Asia and the pacific which would include citizens living abroad. An guess who is helping them do all this….our controlled corrupt government.

        As far ad being an optimus Rick….these issues need to be dealt with now before the above happens and all it will take is 1 completely vile act they have done to go mainstream (911, sandyhook, vaccines, GMOs etc). But there is no hope because the public is soo brainwashed that even smart people on here can’t see the Forrest through the trees.

      • mario March 20, 2014, 3:34 am

        Hi Craig, I live with constant realistic concern that if things get ugly, and however that may unfold, I will be booted out. I’ve applied for my permanent residence card here and will get it, but such details won’t matter if the situations turn ugly.

        Billions of people’s lives in history right up to current times have faced such displacement of their lives and death. I’m doing my best to plan accordingly, to be mindful of my options, have a plan b, plan c.

        Cheers, Mario

    • Oregon March 17, 2014, 7:22 pm

      BDTR, I agree. I have been laughing since the beginning of this when curator Kerry came out saying it was an …”incredible act of aggression by Russia”. Do these a-holes not look past their noses? We invade countries on the other side of the planet, with impunity, and then chastise Russia for sending troops to their doorstep.

      And if ‘citizens’ of California or Texas were to destabilize, forcefully remove their governors, and seek independence, are we to think that U.S. military troops would not rush in? Would Hope and Change organize a nonviolent sit-in; send in his ‘Dream Team’? “Chris Rock, Oprah, and Lebron, guardians of the kingdom, rap it down, straight up, on the gangsta tip, with all my brothers and sisters to bring about a peaceful resolution.” “Freal.”

      There are really only a couple options here:
      Either these professional politicians are too stupid to comprehend the endgame of their perpetual douchebaggery, or they are smart enough to exercise a conspiratorial agenda of douchebaggery.

      As a gift, a random act of kindness and amusement, I ask you, gary leibowitz to take a break from your sanctioned data, and opine, wax poetic on which form of douchebaggery we are witnessing… shortsighted and ill-conceived, or is it conspiritory; no you don’t acknowledge that word; brazen, no…; is it admirable brinksmanship? Ya, ya, I know, ‘Operation Ukranian Freedom’ of course, YOU can have that as a third option. I don’t want to be accused of pigeonholing you, keeping you from illustrating the obvious benevolent douchebaggery of our leadership.

      Come on Gary… put on some jazz, decant some vino, loosen the tie, take a break from the numbers and break down this international current event for me. What does that analytic brain of yours say about Ukraine, Crimea, and the bigger picture?

      • dk March 19, 2014, 3:28 am
      • Oregon March 19, 2014, 7:45 am

        Belgium? Oh, actually that makes perfect sense.

        I’d say chocolate sales were really good the last couple of months. I know because I bought two more bars last month than I usually do.

        Gary has taught me to look deeper and connect the dots before believing the likes of tyler durden and co-conspirators.

        Nothing to see here.

      • EVIL VLAD March 19, 2014, 11:43 pm

        dk, great succinct link.
        good to see ‘ministry of truth’ is alive and well, and gaining further deepness.
        so raise your cup to 1 honest brit eric arthur blair, whom foresaw it all in 1948.

      • EVIL VLAD March 19, 2014, 11:53 pm

        oregon, gary is even a bigger liar than anything you will read, in dk’s herein link.
        but hey, as they used to say, ‘it’s a free country’ (haha), so believe, what you will.
        for, as to the entire ‘tyler durden’ concept, I have doubts too. yet, even amidst it’s
        potential lies, there are sufficient truths, to make the lies respectable, thus swallowable.

        &&&&&&

        Let me take this opportunity to set a modest goal for the forum: using the correct possessive form of ‘its’. There is no apostrophe. Yes, I know this stinks from an intuitive standpoint. But one way to get a handle on the rule is to think of the possessive form of the pronoun ‘yours’. Would you say ‘That book is your’s ? Probably not; even those who write ‘it’s’ when they mean ‘its’ would probably write, “That book is yours.” Same deal with ‘its’. Okay? RA

      • Oregon March 20, 2014, 1:04 am

        RA, isn’t ‘it’s’ in this instance more of a brevity thing than a possessive thing. Aren’t it’s, what’s, and who’s related?

        Vlad, I believe sarcasm is the highest form of intelligent conversation, but I appreciate your laser focus. I don’t think Gary is a liar as you say, just very focused, like an ipod with no shuffle play.

        &&&&&

        It’s the second ‘it’s’ in Vlad’s post that I was talking about, Oregon; the first is used correctly. RA

      • EVIL VLAD March 20, 2014, 2:03 am

        oregon, re-read what I wrote. I compared gary’s ‘truths’, to truths in dk’s link.
        I did not say gary was a wholesale liar, any more than any of us are, herein, on this website.
        including host. and if I wanted to list his fibs, I easily could, but not worth my trouble.

        I think ALL humans are liars. to one degree or another. HUMAN NATURE.
        the greatest trait ALL humans have, are lies. lying is our greatest ability, no doubt.

        but, the DEGREE of our lies, is what defines each of us, IMO. how big are our lies.

        and for what purpose. lie to free own ourselves, or lie to enslave others, to our lies.

        and THAT is bottomline, IMO.

      • Oregon March 20, 2014, 6:03 am

        Of course RA, I missed the second one. That’s why you were the investigator and why I barely finished high school.

  • mario cavolo March 17, 2014, 9:32 am

    Nice commentary today Rick, I note the two-sided coin of desires for a lower USD and a lower RMB. Quite the conflict considering how high the stakes are. With China undoubtedly Putin’s friend, related concerns are the recent widening of the yuan band, the Chinese newly announced desire for a weaker yuan which send a clear signal to the market along with the tightening of credit in China’s shadow banking system, the primary driver of copper’s decline. However, headlines such as this are very misleading and annoying “This job is also made more treacherous as so much credit is now supplied by the shadow-banking system, which is inevitably harder to control.” As that is a patently false, misleading line at Marketwatch, China’s shadow banking system represents less than 15% of China’s total banking system liabilities, so its a big fuss over something much smaller than people think it is.

    Then there’s that a weaker dollar will further improve the U.S. export situation which continues to strengthen. High stakes, many variables at play both economic and political…no point in guessing outcomes…

    Cheers, Mario