Why Your Cul-de-Sac May Need Two Snipers

Erich S., a survivalist pen-pal who has retreated to a commune in an isolated wooded area of Pennsylvania, tells me that my suburban cul-de-sac will be a sitting duck for marauders and bandits if and when the U.S. economy collapses. I had suggested to him earlier that he read my friend Sean Brodrick’s book, The Ultimate Suburban Survivalist Guide — a kinder-and-gentler approach to survivalism that assumes most of us will not flee for the hills with guns, ammo and food rations when the time comes. Sean thinks we’ll all simply hunker down, working with neighbors to scrape by after the banks have shut down, food and fuel supply chains have withered, digital communication and the power supply have grown balky and unreliable, and half of the U.S. population is out of work.

This scenario is too rosy, according to Erich. For starters, cul-de-sacs are inherently difficult to defend, requiring at least two well-positioned snipers to guard against marauders round-the-clock. That, at least, is the assessment of his security expert, a former Army Ranger sniper who is responsible for protecting the commune from human predators. And here I’d thought my small-bore Ruger would be defense enough for the household.

The Least of Our Worries

Erich is an optimist compared to a Vancouver friend who has made a lifelong study of the prophecies of Nostradamus. Forget about the problem of defending one’s cul-de-sac, he says, because marauders will be the least of our worries. There are two World Wars coming in the next 20 years, he says, and anyone who survives them will have to run a gauntlet of disease and famine that will wipe most of the world’s population. There will also be natural disasters to contend with, including an earthquake that will make Arizona and Utah coastal states.

If none of this has come to pass come next December, we should be most grateful to find that the stock market has continued to rise, even if for the wrong reasons; that we are still governed by a savagely incompetent, leftist president and a corrupt, bumbling Congress ; and that the banksters’ plot to steal our assets and enslave us in debt is still only a work in progress.

  • mava January 20, 2014, 10:10 pm

    Paul Craig Roberts says in the very first paragraph:

    “…The deregulation of the financial system during the Clinton and George W. Bush regimes had the predictable result: financial concentration and reckless behavior. A handful of banks grew so large that financial authorities declared them “too big to fail.” Removed from market discipline, the banks became wards of the government requiring massive creation of new money by the Federal Reserve in order to support through the policy of Quantitative Easing the prices of financial instruments on the banks’ balance sheets and in order to finance at low interest rates trillion dollar federal budget deficits associated with the long recession caused by the financial crisis….”

    he delivers the point that this had happened because there was a deregulation. But, he is lying. Think.

    No matter how big these banks grew, the government DID NOT HAVE TO bail them out. The bigger they get, the harder they would fall! The problem was that the government DECIDED to bail them out.

    In other words, the problem is that we have an out of control government that bails out whoever it wants with our money. Paul Craig Roberts believes that we should tolerate this out of control government (think of it as of a drunk behind the wheel of a truck), and just concentrate on regulation, which would supposedly insure that the government has no object it could apply their bailouts to (we should just make sure there is no one on the road, so that the drunkard has no one to collide into).

    PCR is a pro-government propaganda master, as I just showed.

  • Rich January 20, 2014, 2:26 am

    Broncos it was.
    Go 49rs.

    This cul de sac Luciferian Mad Max Road discussion brings back memories of Jack Kerouac and my father, who passed in ’08 at 88 when the market took a dump.

    An Aquarian chessmaster Lamb Nittany Lion Electrical Engineer from East Stroudsberg, an OCS Vet who survived D Day, Okinawa and Korea, a Motown manufacturers rep and Master Mason Shriner philanthropist, he retired early to get out of Dodge, er Detroit to one of the havens Edgar Cayce said would be safe after earth changes.

    My folks joined a charter travel club and wintered in Mexico near Club Med. He did the best investing of his life then, with energy MLPs, natural resource stocks, utilities and patience.

    After a long battle with cancer that he thought he contracted landing at Hiroshima ground zero when Japan surrendered, his outlook on future life became apocalyptic.

    He fed his insomnia and pain with Art Bell and Ed Dames dystopian fantasies and forecasts, while his stock portfolio continued to compound long term.

    Whenever he began retelling C2C tales at family gatherings, I was the only one in the extended family who listened. My brothers accused him of scaring young minds with dismal futures. He was wrong on detail, not trend, as he forecast the USA becoming a third-world country like Mexico.

    We spoke often about good investment ideas. He saw me reading the Bible daily and, already circumcised, was baptized at 80, “just in case.”

    Our last conversation was on Thanksgiving 2008, when he feared 1929 was unfolding, but still did not sell because of low cost-basis stock.

    I suggested RIO at four year lows after APA, AZA, BHP, MXF and TCK had worked out.

    He did not want to talk stocks. He had fallen and hit his head in the bathroom and, lying on the floor, refusing an ambulance, he knew his time on earth was over. He believed his soul was going to Sirius if he could stay in the light. People just do not ask about their stock portfolio on their deathbed. Black Friday he was peacefully gone during the early dawn. Now my mother and I talk stocks every weekend. She does not trade. She “weeds the garden.”

    All this is to say that change is constant, and no one knows the exact day or time, although my father came close.

    I do note several interesting things.

    A) Most naked puts expired worthless as Rick stated.

    B) Germany is taking on the US re only 5 of 674 tons of gold delivered.

    C) Surplus nation state Russia is replacing the US in MENA.

    D) RPMGF is up +58% from the .113 low on 25 November 2013.

    Congressional Campaign in Las Vegas is picking up pace, so may be incommunicado.

    Be well thee all…

  • DK January 19, 2014, 4:29 pm

    Great article by Paul Craig Roberts:

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/01/17/hows-whys-gold-price-manipulation/

    Without getting into it too much, Rick, I believe the scenario you’ve alluded to will be far worse than anything that we imagine. I believe I’ve said before, The Road magnified.
    I think BDTR is touching on some important points, more to be added there. In fact, that’s already underway in certain respects.
    I’d end up giving my .02 on others comments here and I’m trying to resist doing much of that anymore.

    Anyway, good luck all.

    Go Broncos.

  • BDTR January 18, 2014, 6:29 pm

    I think that the set-up’s established, Andy.

    Repatriation 2.0 of biblical scale.

    And as the specter of debt deflation looms in all its majestically levered inevitably, …who’s been seated as Fed chair? Look at her credentials. All she needs is a broom.

    The crises opportunity menu is full as brimming corporate offshore accounts and expatriate $. Bloated coffers with nowhere to go need instantly desperate hard muni assets for fire-sale pennies from havens. Beats trying to pile taxes on already beaten bloody masses.

    Then what happens to confidence when bondpocalyptic bank-bail-in ensues, ..flashpoint Japan? Sayonara, baby.
    No need. Just shut-up and do what you’re told.

    Remember, there’s one infrastructure all shiny and bright.
    Ignored from the left, and adored from the right. DHS and FEMA, too, are poised to keep freedom a long way from you.

    • Andy Gutterman January 20, 2014, 4:39 pm

      The FED is pushing on a string. What is happening demographically to the economy is something they have ZERO control over, and it will overwhelm any efforts they make.

      See James Quinn’s latest to understand it better:

      http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article44031.html

      My only real disagreement with Quinn is with Bernanke’s intent. Although the effect of FED policy is to enrich the 1%, I think Bernanke really believes he is doing what he is doing for the greater good. What most people don’t realize is Bernanke is not from the 1% world.

      Andy

  • Tahoe Billy January 17, 2014, 8:53 am

    Willie and Ackerman both miss the point. Hyperinflation is a panic of pricing. It is a culmination of instant wage deflation and price inflation. It’s isn’t a massive increase in currency (credit) but a strange and instant breakdown in availabilty of goods versus. It is not math, it is trust.

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    Your concept of a ‘panic in pricing’ is correct as far as it goes, Billy, but the panic does not come for no apparent reason; it actually
    IS ‘the math’ that destroys trust. In 1921-23 Weimar, for one, the collapse of money — and trust — were directly and explicitly the result of a massive increase in the supply of Reichsmarks.

    And could you please elaborate on where I ‘miss the point’? (Jim?) Willie and I are not the same guy, and, for my part at least, I have always taken pains to explain why a Weimar-style money-glut was not possible in the U.S.

    Also, since you’ve come up with such a nice conception of hyperinflation, I’d be genuinely interested in hearing from you on the question of how America’s grossly overleveraged housing stock will settle if the dollar should one day be rejected by everybody. Will we then be able to pay off our mortgages with relative pocket change? RA

    • Andy Gutterman January 18, 2014, 4:04 pm

      How do we even know about hyperinflation? Can anyone point to a hyperinflation happening without physical printing of the currency? If not then how can we KNOW we can get hyperinflation via digital currency if it has never happened?

      We can only discuss hyperinflation because we have experienced it — if not here, then elsewhere.

      So far as I can tell, the hyperinflation expected in the US is 100% theoretical. What is the yet untested theory that generates this hyperinflation?

      Might be a good topic for discussion.

      Andy

  • Gentle Vlad January 17, 2014, 1:25 am

    whatever. let me know.

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    Let you know, how? I told you: I’m not going to communicate with you in this forum over concerns that are best addressed in private emails. Your choice. But I have no idea what is generating the ‘Server Error’ message.

    Incidentally, you’re becoming increasingly high-maintenance. I have far better things to do with my time than edit the crap out of your frantic, watch-me-set-the-curtains-on-fire-posts each and every night, when you emerge from your coffin in Uruguay raging with logorrhea. I know I’ve been bad about following through on ultimatums, Vlad, but this one may just be your last. Respond to this post intemperately, and it will be. RA

  • gary leibowitz January 16, 2014, 10:55 pm

    Is there ever a point where you will fold up your tents and declare this time-frame as just another normal cycle in the ever ending cycles of boom/bust? Why most here have wished for the worse possible outcome is beyond me. Would anyone be happy or satisfied if we do manage to skirt another dire outcome? Has life ever been fair where the greedy have paid and the meek inherited the earth? In 1937 we had the Japanese kill and rape over two hundred thousand Chinese after their surrender. The outcome from this was what? Hiroshima perhaps? Current nuclear disaster?

    You use such absurd declarations as fact that I find it hard to have a normal conversation. Nostradamus, meteor strike, earthquakes, second-coming, ice cap melting, global warming, evil global conspiracies. I also find it fascinating that as the market seems to have its best economic showing in 5 years, along with one of the longest upward thrust, the talk is even more desperate. It’s as if your frustration level is hitting a critical point, and that in itself must mean we are nearing the ultimate end of civilization as we know it.

    I wish I studied to be a psychiatrist. This would be a great thesis paper study. I really have to end this or my sanity will be in jeopardy.

    • Gary leibowitz January 17, 2014, 7:56 pm

      We as in collective human behavior. As for expectations of a collapse in our economy you might have to wait a bit longer. Industrial production nearing five-year highs with capacity near 80, a point where inflation can become a reality. The dozens of economic reports have allowed the stock market to remain high.

      Where are the articles explaining this phenomena? I was assured expansion was impossible in a debt deflation environment. Does everyone here just ignore these talking points till we see another round of dire reports?

      Yet even with these confirming reports I am accused of being naive and complicit in the sham.

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      What is ‘expanding’, Gary? Share prices? Auto loans? The number of jobless who have stopped looking? That’s some expansion! RA

    • Buster January 17, 2014, 9:34 pm

      Something for the weekend, Gary:

      FARAGE: WE ARE NOW RUN BY BIG BUSINESS BIG BANKS AND BIG BUREAUCRATS
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn0lTeFNV4

      • gary leibowitz January 18, 2014, 1:09 am

        Not in disagreement. I have always stated that from the 80’s on we have created a huge imbalance of wealth and power towards corporations and top tier individuals. In the socialist countries the problems were not anything like what we have here. Unfortunately NOW it is. I agree. They are now completely controlled by foreign banks and investors.

        People seem “not”to be able to separate my view on the economy and the power shift that has taken place. I would love to revert back to the pre-80’s environment. I believe it is cyclical like almost everything is. Most here think it is a one way build up. History has shown, so far, that power always shifts after its citizens are in great distress. The EU problems of today will not have the same power structure in 10 years time. Same goes true here.

        You people have to have faith that elected officials can be dethroned. Chris Christie is a great example of someone with total power and public backing. His Nixon-like event proves how easily perceptions can shift. He already announced he will not run for national office, with his “I love NJ speech” right after the 20 or so subpoenas were issued. His chances of staying governor are 50/50 right now. I suspect as time goes on those odds get decreased. One minute on top of the world, and the next shot down. We still have elections and don’t discount the power it wields. Why he bothered to be so petty, ignoring any political consequence, goes at the heart of the man. His bullying tactic was appreciated on some level for his “straight talk” and getting things done. Let’s see his popularity score if/when he personally gets caught in this mess. This is democracy from all angles, the good, bad and ugly.

      • redwilldanaher January 18, 2014, 12:35 pm

        Don’t discount the power elections wield?

        Do you even take yourself seriously?

        Takedown on the tragicomic farce that is and has been the US Congress:

        http://www.humanevents.com/2014/01/17/why-congress-is-held-in-contempt/

      • Jason S January 18, 2014, 9:21 pm

        Gary, I somewhat agree with you, however, the timing of this is usually a long time in coming.
        ” History has shown, so far, that power always shifts after its citizens are in great distress. ”
        You are right but the power shift usually takes generations to happen. When it does occur it is also usually sharp, bloody and destructive.

        If you are just looking at the power shifts in the US over the last hundred years, that is different and I wouldn’t really call that a power shift since both political parties have made it their aim to increase governmental power and restrict individual liberties. That is why I am so entertained by the Dems and GOP backers fighting for their cause. These people are fighting for the party lines but not noticing that their parties stopped representing those ideals long ago.

        A tragic comedy is still a comedy. Between laughing and crying, I will choose laughing.

  • Buster January 16, 2014, 10:54 am

    Why I’m shorting the stock market.

    During the holiday get together the question was raised of whether any of us believed in ghosts. Most agreed that they did, incidentally, at which I explained that when we are yet alive it appears that we are all part ghost already, since the theory of ‘Radio DNA’ seems to suggest that our aura is actually a holographic image of us that is received by the 4 bit string code DNA antenna present inside every cell in the body, to tell each cell what to be in that particular region of the body, similar to as is described by the researcher Bruce Lipton. So our aura is for all intents & purposes a ghost or image of some sort of light energy. A bizarre thought indeed, yet equally bizarre are some of the supposed results of experiments supporting this theory. I often wonder at the unlikelihood of this happening by chance, it being more likely suggesting some intelligent design of something in a completely different realm to the visible universe we’re familiar with.

    Little snippets such as these I file away with all the other accumulated details that seem to suggest that very little is mere chance. I often wonder if it could be chance that the whole world is & has been driven by a debt system of money that enriches those who installed it & have us defend it by way of wars & bankruptcy both now & for centuries before us? ….& is it by chance that the instigators of such a system can be traced by their slime trail to having their foundations in ritualistic & religious leanings resembling more the occult than rational thinking or anything remotely ‘spiritual’??

    On seeing the devastation of people & societies to this day I can empathize with the act, but since long before Jesus lost his temper & threw over the money changers’ tables has this been continuing unopposed. If a ‘God’ does observe this episode then he appears to remain silent, & no Elijah is forthcoming to defeat the Baal worshipers, even though one is promised before midnight. Isn’t it nearly midnight??

    Yet, there does appear the slight chance that there are some murmurings, in that there’s just this seven-year collapse thing that’s been bothering me for a while now. Though I have no faith in my own understanding, since, well, ‘there ain’t no Elijah!’ here as far as I can see & in spite of all the great leaders that are & have been, both political & religious, none being divine spokesmen & hence the mistakes in understanding, I do feel that if by chance the Sabbath cycle is being imposed by something altogether higher than the minions who rule us & defy the natural laws that are for the good of all, then stepping in front of such a power would be much worse than stepping in front of a very large train…even with a hard hat on by way of stops! — since if such a power was to ‘speak’ then the very atoms would quiver!

    So I’m ‘shorting’ the idea that man can defy debt laws that were there to protect the weak from the lawless who now rule the world in their arrogance as supreme predators of planet Earth. I may be wrong, since ‘I ain’t no Elijah’ either, but! failing anything else making much sense of our existence & the terminal destination that we’re fast approaching anyway (in case anyone hasn’t noticed!) I’ll bet on the only slim hope that we seem to have……that something very great might actually be ‘speaking’.

  • Rick Ackerman January 16, 2014, 1:45 am

    I am posting the following clarification in behalf of my friend, the Nostradamian scholar mentioned in the current commentary:

    The future seismic event that has California in its sights has three seismic phases on the West Coast. The first seismic event (1) takes the coastline inland to roughly San Bernadino and Sacramento – needless to say millions will die and the major cities will be destroyed. Later there will be another large west coast seismic event (2) that again changes maps causing damage to move further eastwards, and then after that one it is the third mega seismic event (3) that will make Phoenix into a coastal city – the new American Riviera, so get your Phoenix real estate now while it’s on sale.

    Since Nostradamus almost never supplies the dates on his prophecies, one has to try to sequence them based on overlaps in content and references. These specific future major seismic events progress around the globe from east to west, and these seismic events should be moving laterally and sequentially. The major seismic events that culminate with California start in the far east (1), and then the next seismic event hits the eastern Mediterranean basin area (2), then the Caribbean basin gets a major seismic event (3), and then finally the first major seismic event phase should hit California (4).

    So this sequence will begin in the far east and each individual seismic event will be significant. Please bear in mind that I use the words ‘seismic event’ because that seismic designation includes other types of major earth disturbances such as volcanoes – i.e. the Krakatoa volcanic eruption in 1883 was a major seismic event. I suspect that the future eastern Mediterranean basin seismic event may well be an event that resembles Krakatoa. It might be an eruption of Mount Vesuvius, as a large tsunami is generated in one of the prophecies that hits Greece and goes inland.

    And lest you think my friend a pessimist, here is a gloriously optimistic side of him that operates on a higher plane:

    “The future for the next 35 years is going to be very rough indeed, it is the end of Kali Yuga – as the Hindus have called this dark age, where materialism and violence and spiritual ignorance predominate. The good news is the change of ages will transit into Satya Yuga, the most spiritual age, where the survivors of Kali Yuga emerge into a world where peace and love and true spirituality dawn and become the new hallmark of our evolving human development. Revelations in the Bible promises 1000 years of peace and a considerable spiritual advancement for mankind, so in the larger view we are merely trashing and rebuilding. The Hindus (who have recorded this process in their ancient Sanskrit literature over many cycles of Yugas) tell us this has happened to mankind again and again – modern western history is quite brief compared to the enormous span of time covered in ancient Hindu literature (which is by far the most extensive written history of mankind’s existence of all of today’s present religions).

    “We are all souls and as such are eternal, and that is why most religions’ mystical teachings advise us to learn to die so that we may begin to live – or to learn to and then practice the process of how to die before death overtakes us — some of the ancient mystery schools actually used to teach this process as did many religions in their early days. Today there is a true paucity of spiritually advanced souls and these teachings are taught by theoretical and largely spiritually ignorant people, who have neither the experience nor the ability to offer the experience to us and so teach it – the tenets of these folks is surrender to me, and the spiritual experience will come later or only after death.

    “The True Teacher asks you to sit down and offers the initial spiritual experience to the student on day one and then teaches you how to develop it, including both ‘internal’ and external support for the ‘initiate’ forever afterwards. I am Blessed to have been found by such a Guru, seeing is believing (although I am a fairly poor student, He has promised our spiritual connection will never be broken until He brings me up to God realization as well – no matter how much time it takes). ‘When the student is ready the teacher appears’ is axiomatic in our spiritual lives, and the True Guru’s appearance is the indication that the soul has begun the final spiritual journey back to the Home of our Father – this will happen to each soul in it’s turn, but only when they are ready, as we are all prodigal ‘sons’ as individual souls.”

    • cosmo January 18, 2014, 2:46 pm

      Nice addition to the discussion Rick, FWIW, the folks on here might be interested…

      http://amma.org/

      She travels the world consoling and helping everyone that comes to see her, often for 15+hours at a stretch.
      OM Namah Sivaya

  • D. Barber January 14, 2014, 8:55 pm

    Rick could be the Postman.

  • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 8:38 pm

    gary, I am going to be my own devil’s advocate, and show you something I saw today,
    very simple, just a chart and three tv talkingheads, but longterm chart, is impressive.

    for to myself, nothing speaks better than charts, re markets, and specially longterm.
    and most specially, when show’s host is a brit blonde bombshell, named ‘bamby.’ down, boy. back to longterm powerful irrefutable chart, with even longterm similar %,
    of (2) major steadily climbing bullruns, of approx. 20 years each, since circa 1940,
    and then with consolidation huge-whipsaw periods (2), of approx. 13 years each.

    excellent simple longterm chart analysis, that makes sense chartwise, but–IMO, nothing else.

    and chart’s primary point is, that the current 13 year consolidation has ended, and
    now, a new 20 yr bull starts. and this is what blew away the blonde bamby (er, mandy).

    so, there you are. usa market will go up for next 20 yrs. since bamby’s 2 chart pals, say so.
    and who wouldn’t believe bamby, when she is being blown away, by a new 20 yr bull?

    however, I do have to add this. and this I learned from veteran pro chart-cycle analysts.
    that, from their vet experience, when a cycle becomes obvious, even to shoeshine boys,
    the cycle will end, and morph into something else. and that is what I still think, it will do.

    so prepare.

    • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 9:13 pm
      • Chuck January 15, 2014, 12:47 am

        it must be too much Prozac in the water…..these bulls I tell ya…

      • redwilldanaher January 15, 2014, 3:12 pm

        Great link Vlad. I felt like I was in the chair with my eyelids being forcibly held open. Mandy yes, but CNBC sickens me to watch it even for just a few minutes. The 2 pathetic shills made me even more sickly to listen to them.

        Having said that, I can believe anything. Just as stated last week, last year and every year before that since I learned that lessen circa 1994 or ’95. If the priests that control nearly everything, militaries, media, minds, all things monetary, etc. work in concert, they can engineer practically anything over the short run (<2 decades). They've proven it.

        As we all know, critical thinking, critical analysis by a free people or free media no longer exists, especially in the USSA. Look at our friend Gary. Not only does he swallow it hook, line and sinker, but he spends a good deal of time and energy trying to convince other people to buy into the web of lies along with him. Apparently that's a mini show of power that can be attributed to long term multi-faceted conditioning.

        They're not too far from trippling the bottom number that was reached in the DOW. How hard would it be to 150% it from here? They continue to punish metals bulls, everyone knows that those markets are hypermanipulated. LIBOR, stocks, etc. It's a complete farce in all ways BUT since they make the laws etc., they not only get away with it all but with huge profits to boot. Why stop now?

        Everything has become a sad joke. Go across the board. Are any of these items NOT a joke?:

        US Fed Govt. – Worst empty suits ever in total control.
        US State Govts. – Minor league Pond Scum.
        The Supreme Farce/Court – John Roberts?
        The FED – Where to begin…
        The Media – possibly the biggest disgrace of all.
        The Culture – awful music, awful films, awful fiction
        Higher Inculcation/Education – overpriced by several factors, a farce in and of itself in many ways.
        The Public Fool/School System
        Monsanto Food and Water
        Government funneling people away from independence and toward dependence, at times forcibly doing this.
        Obsession with electronic trinkets, self-destructive thug life, with the vapid, etc.
        Horrible debt/savings/investment demographics for the worst generation.
        Unfathomable debt burdens across the board.

        Others have produced much longer, much better lists than this one but clearly much could be added here.

        When things are as thoroughly poor as they are, when the fools running things are this universally bad, it just doesn't seem right that the index play things can reach even more lofty levels. BUT, I learned that whenever I tried to connect these play things to something, anything at all, I was making a mistake. It's their toy. I think Rick writes it the right way. "It looks like they want to push it to here" or "they're working towards this level". That's what I learned to do but not in as elegant a way as Rick does with his method. Once they breach certain levels then I recalibrate, project where it is that I think they're pushing things, trade it and monitor it. It's not legendary "Gann" stuff but it works.

        They shouldn't be able to get away with it all but they are just too damn many zombies these days. The zombie to human being ratio must also be at record highs.

    • Andy Gutterman January 15, 2014, 2:47 pm

      The chart of the SP500 with the 13 year flatline followed by the bull market relies on static economics. EVERY period is the same, so expect the same results the next time.

      Gold bugs do that as well, endlessly comparing the bull run in the 70’s to today. Peaks and valleys then, ditto for today, gold is going to $5000 an ounce!

      The fact that we had roaring inflation then vs no inflation or even deflation today means nothing to them, its all about the pattern.

      Patterns can repeat, but only if the underlying fundamentals are the same.

      Andy

      • Gentle Vlad January 17, 2014, 3:07 am

        “Patterns can repeat, but only if the underlying fundamentals are the same.” Agreed.

    • Jason S January 17, 2014, 2:52 am

      Vlad, wouldn’t it be great if it was as easy as following the chart. Invest for 20 years, sell and sit tight for 13 and then sink your money back into the market for 20 more. No need of fear, just follow the chart, easy-peasy. Everyone could do it and we would all be rich, everybody would be equal, all would be fair. Unicorns and rainbows for all.

      Excuse me while I go vomit…

  • Andy Gutterman January 14, 2014, 2:51 pm

    I vividly remember the late 50’s, early 60’s. We were all going to die in nuclear Armageddon. I remember the movies in school telling us what to do, how to get under the desk, the air raid sirens and getting down to the bomb shelter, how you could build your own bunker to survive the mushroom cloud.

    I remember Y2K.

    Now its economic Armageddon.

    I think there is too much of Hollywood in the minds of many people. All the shows on TV and the movies about the end of the world. Add in the prepper shows as well.

    It ain’t gonna happen, and anyone who is investing in this is wasting their money. I sometimes wonder if we get a depression because people were too stupid to stay away from totally unproductive purchases, such as guns, bullets and Targets.

    If the world were to come to an end like many of these people describe then most of them will come to an end as well. How may people in the modern world are TRULY capable of living in the 18th century, without most of the infrastructure we all grew up with?

    Whatever might destroy us will take the food chain with it, which means as soon as the stored food runs out everyone will starve, save for the very few who really are self sufficient, even today.

    And who really wants to live in such a world?

    Hollywood does a great job in picturing how easy it was 200 years ago, in reality it was a lot more difficult than anyone today can imagine.

    My prediction? Life will go on, it will get more difficult, the population will shrink, some of us won’t make it, but eventually the economy will come back so we can do it all over, again.

    Andy

    • mario cavolo January 16, 2014, 8:43 am

      Absolutely Andy, centuries of life without electricity and running water. Medieval Europe was a daily hell. Everyone , please read James Clavell’s Taipan. It is truly EPIC. More so , it describes how filthy a European was and why: Because they CHURCH told them according to God, do NOT bathe, do NOT EVER open the windows in your dwelling to let in evil spirits, and on and on and on keeping an entire continent living in poverty and filth. This sh*t went on for 1000 years before the Renaissance triggered by the plague wipeout. We could go on and on about how many families had/have to live together in small spaces just to survive, it still goes on today including in China. However, in America the worst part is the crime and danger innocents are subjected to thanks to gun toting drug dealing gangs, etc. The price of “freedom” is high and hypocritical.

      Cheers, Mario

      • BDTR January 16, 2014, 5:07 pm

        Thanks for bringing the CHURCH into view, mario, since it constitutes the most enduring and pervasive arm of the west’s propaganda mechanisms.

        Institutionally, it sets the precedent bar for the extent to which our reality may be routinely distorted and exploited by sanctioned powers of civil authority. The well from which the water of pure fraud is drawn. The standard barer of fantastically occult deception and the model for pyramidical structuring of the privileges of power.

        US as privileged western heir, opportunistically seizing an indefensible continent by holy heathen genocide, accruing domain, incessantly crafting institutionally a delusion of self-serving exceptionalism in American’s expectational mentality, endowed by some Roman imagined god, that all but those divinely excluded by economic necessity of the times we’re created, more or less and some significantly so, by their divined creator.

        The CHURCH> distinguishing features of character difference between occidental intent and means of mass manipulation from those of the orient, netting more predictable cycles of social behavioral extremes and in planning political exploits and witch burnings. (Precter gets it, at least in part by usefully observable fibonacci measures.)

        It leaves us all many steps behind in market attempts to compensate the initiatives of political predation. Economy, particularly hard assets, is a best bet arena for resistance because of its ties to real world physics, unlike finance.

        No doubt why there’s such concerted effort to usurp and distort commodity markets. It’s the last bastion of hope for a remnant of autonomously individual human participatory power so fundamentally important to constraining high frequency tyranny.

        China understands this. It just seems counterintuitive from prevailing western view, but it’s the difference between foundational strength for sustainable value, and a teetering house of cards.

        Physics, don’t leave home without it. Especially if you’re traveling far east. Where much of technology and science claimed by the west actually originated.

        Which brings me back to my ominous post above. The most destructive evidence to date of the price to be paid for the forced oriental infection of western hubris. The harbinger destruction of Japan. It’s long been coming and now is terminal. It betrayed its nature at point of gunboat and will pay a terrible price for the lie that we brought, …as we all soon will.

        Given history, no small, dizzyingly compound irony here:
        http://www.navytimes.com/article/20140114/NEWS/301140016/Lawmakers-seek-data-sailors-exposure-Fukushima-radiation

  • mava January 14, 2014, 8:36 am

    The more we believe in the coming Armageddon, the harder we can be pushed around. Even since around the biblical times this was true. Which was why all the scary stories were invented in the first place.

    You learn to see this picture of people eating people in your mind, and now surely you can tolerate your bank account going Cyprus.

    When did “the road” came out? 2009-2010? You think anyone would be allowed to make a movie like that if it wasn’t actually ordered? It was needed to scare us into submission.

    The funny thing is, we will never know that we could have let the entire banking system be wiped out only to end up with brand new banking system in an eye-flash.

    “Holy place is never vacant” – they say, and boy, is it not true!

    The superstructure carries Zero degree of importance to the system, yet, the system will go unbelievable lengths of suffering trying to save that infrastructure, all based on the fake beliefs.

    • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 9:39 pm

      mava says—
      ‘The funny thing is, we will never know that we could have let the entire banking system be wiped out only to end up with brand new banking system in an eye-flash.’

      not only agreed, but also that I am dead certain, that the ‘new brave world order’ banking system, is already fully planned out to the nth degree, in every detail and contingency, when the unavoidable massive quatrillion+ usa dollar bubble, finally breaks, into devastation world deflation. and then you will see, some REAL totalitarianism.

      for you cannot compare the just-tech problem y2k, or nostradamus and mayan or other prophesies, or even comparison to other prior profound market crashes, to what is going on right now.

      for the quadrillion+ dollars world debt assures it.

      plus, all current constant violations, of usa constitution–with no punishment–
      a constitution which has held the entire world together, for two centuries,
      and pres. exec. orders, setting up immediate private confiscation, with no rule of law,
      plus 2 billion bought bullets, etc, etc— or did you all move to colorado, to smoke pot?
      or wait, you just have to catch your saved daily 3 hours of canned-laughter tv shows.

      whatever. unfortunately, ussa still leads the world. most hypocritical nation, of alltime.

      • mava January 15, 2014, 6:23 pm

        USA is not that bad. It is far, far from liberty, for sure, but it isn’t too bad either.

        Imagine for a second that China or Russia is the world leader. That would be so much worse for everyone on the lead.

        US at least tries to keep the face, the pretense that it supposedly is governed by the law, “There ought to be a lawful order here, we’re the good guys”. We know it is not true in anything of importance, there is no law, only an emperor’s mandate. Just look at never punished police, the obscene political scandals and the KenyaCare.

        However, this pretense makes a world a bit more civilized, at least for the most generic of zombies.

        If China or Russia took the place of US, the pretense would be that of “Everyone, look at me, I am the baddest, look at what I can allow myself”. There would be no shred of civility.

        I would disagree that the US is the most hypocritical nation of all time. Where it does not concern its imperial interests, the US, a first of all prior world leaders, actually conducts itself very civilized. It is just that the US is a banana republic when its interests are at stake, i.e. the US is incapable of regarding itself equal to others, incapable of allowing itself only a fairly won advantage. It regards itself, and own politicians especially, as above the law.

        But with other possible power dealers, like China or Russia, the “I am above the law” principle would be the only observable law.

  • gary leibowitz January 14, 2014, 12:57 am

    You people seem to salivate at the prospect of Armageddon. Madly disappointed we aren’t already seeing civil war. I can’t contend with this mid-set. Sad to think people actually prepare for such an event. The 50’s and 60’s had the home do-it-yourself silos, and children hunkering under their desks at school. I can guarantee you that most problems will happen due to accidental killings before we ever get to such a sad state. Fear is in the mind, and heart of people that think everyone will behave as they do. Paranoia and distrust comes from within. The decades of fear that blacks will kill whites has for the most part come and gone, and now we have the belief that human nature will always revert to violence given the opportunity. The Great Depression must be a big disappointment to most. Hope we live up to your low standards the next time.

    I leave this discussions to the experts that know how to kill and form a defensive posture to discourage others from entering. The survivalist mentality has been around for centuries. There certainly was always an excuse to expect the worse. Is today really any different than hundreds of other places and times?

    I would love to have this discussion with you all in 20 years time. I am guessing that even if absolutely nothing materializes in that time your posture will remain angry and bitter. To go thru life with such hatred of your fellow man is sad and incurable.

    Peace!

    • Oregon January 14, 2014, 2:36 am

      Gary,
      You forgot to remind us that you called this 5+ year rally in stocks, and that the economy is heating up. I know your busy, but don’t lose your edge.
      And I think ‘Peace Now!’ is the correct way to say it.

      • gary leibowitz January 14, 2014, 8:30 pm

        Did you look at the government surplus lately. They managed to bring in more than they spent. Imagine that. If tapering stops in 12 months time and we manage to stay afloat, we will be on the path of reducing the huge deficit. Why is it always all or nothing with most here. What law says the government can’t do what individuals and corporations already did, reduce their liabilities.

        I never see any reference to news that contradict the long 5 year assumptions on how things will turn out. Perhaps that is why most here are in shock that we have lasted this long.

        As for a heated economy, sorry but I never stated that as a real possibility, at least not in the next 5 years. An “improved” economy for sure. The last 4 months are consistent with that notion. The aberration has been the last employment report. If it turns out not to be a one time event than we could see a reversal of trend rather quickly. Hang on to that notion, happy times, for you, will be hear again.

        I still scratch my head in trying to figure out how corporations have managed to bring in the bucks for its shareholders if they created no jobs, and no one is buying their products? Perhaps your one-sided view of the world should change. Or you could stick to a global massive conspiracy that has managed to fool the world for 5 years now. Your choice.

      • gary leibowitz January 14, 2014, 9:03 pm

        Latest report came out today. Small business optimism is near its high for the lasts 5 years. Retail sales in November (less auto and gas) was up .3 percent, December .6 percent.

        Am I the only one that looks at economic data to determine market trends? Most assumed a very weak report was a given. With GDP including inventory buildup and the surge is retail sales it sure looks like they got it right.

        Explain this away with your charts, faked unreliable numbers, but the bottom line is earnings. Has anyone come back and shown why they are also faked? So which is it, a 5 year assumption that has been off by at least that amount of time, or continued manipulation of earnings. One or the other.

        I do agree that if government debt is not reduced on a steady basis we will “eventually” hit a wall. I also agree that the odds the government reduces their debt before another crisis occurs is small. I just don’t rush these things.

        Your talking points keep ignoring every day markers, that put together, explain the whole economy.

      • Oregon January 15, 2014, 2:46 am

        Nice Gary, I knew it was just an oversight. You always seem to find the time…

        “What law says the government can’t do what individuals and corporations already did, reduce their liabilities.”

        It’s probably just a theory, but without contradictory evidence, it should be a law.

      • redwilldanaher January 16, 2014, 5:05 am

        Read the evasion. Just wanted to let you know. I knew you would evade. It’s a simple question. It’s bad enough that you enthusiastically swallow the lies but the regurgitation gets me every time.

    • Redwilldanaher January 14, 2014, 4:39 am

      You’re reflex is ridic Gary. You have stated numerous times that you ultimately expect big problems to develop. Now you have attacked prudence. Do you trust the grid that much? Your attitude is what makes totalitarianism possible.

      • gary leibowitz January 14, 2014, 8:34 pm

        Still do expect another depression-like cycle. Not written in stone, and not something I should “prepare” for, other than have money in reserve. I have stated numerous times my macro view, and that includes a few more years of cyclical bear and bull cycles. bear cycle should occur this year followed by a few more years of good times. My guess is as good as everyone else’s.

      • redwilldanaher January 15, 2014, 2:25 pm

        Since you avoid anything not written by state media, it’s likely that you missed the recent takedown on corporate accounting on ZH, or the fraud within the frauds.

        I will make it simple for you “one time non-recurring” are guess what? Continuous.

        Stop being evasive for a moment to satisfy your ego and simply tell us what stats resource you would risk your life on, John Williams Shadow Stats or the US Federal Government that has lied about nearly everything since its formation????????

      • gary leibowitz January 15, 2014, 9:46 pm

        Red, that’s like saying guess where we would be if the Fed didn’t tighten during the 80’s. Triple digits run-a-way inflation on a yearly basis for sure. You forgot to mention the billion dollar fine from insider trading and likely criminal charges down the line. How about the surplus in government coffers these last few months. Retail sales surged in December as did small business confidence.

        Yes perhaps the reasons I just gave you are more appropriate. The Fed and governments around the world ALWAYS changes the rules to keep the system going. Is that really unexpected? is it a shock? More importantly is it hidden?

        As for corporate accounting we all know the real figures for each company you complain are given a free pass. I do believe that retail companies, service companies, military equipment companies, and almost every non-financial company had no luck with those rule changes. But I guess you still want to believe your reasoning trumps the markets response these last 5 years. So, which group has already proven to be correct, your anger over rule changes, or the parade of great earnings announcement along with increased spending and borrowing. Time is up.

        Don’t worry, hang in there. We will have problems ahead. You will be smiling soon. I just hope it is another crash. If not, you will become even more angry with fire and condemnation like we have never seen before.

        BTW, I do believe I wrote hear instead of here somewhere along the line. Perhaps my subconscious is telling me what I hear from everyone here is that your voices are truly explaining the here and now. I must be dense.

        Life is unfair. It should always stay static and easy to comprehend. I guess I am naïve to expect governments to do whatever it takes to keep the system going. How anyone can tell me there is a better one, when they have no first hand experience or second hand historical reference to prove that, is beyond me.

      • mario cavolo January 16, 2014, 8:04 am

        Now Gary, I must say that RWD makes a valid point here, it is just a question of degree.

        Any sensible person might be wise to know big problems, nasty recession or worse could come, that’s prudent. So then I think the argument is to what degree to protect oneself, to “save for that rainy day”, that “economic winter”

        Most folks know the common sense rule to have at least six months salary in the bank, oh heck, that is far too little. So first level protection for most folks is to simply have enough assets, cash, a car to weather an economic storm in their lives. Beyond that, many of the guys here are taking it a step further, what many might consider overkill, such as owning many guns, storing ammo, water, canned goods, generators, etc. as has been discussed.

        So now let me suggest a third very reasonable option which is called “Have an Exit Strategy In Place”

        This has not been discussed in this otherwise great thread.

        Have An Exit Strategy In Place: Good Grief You Don’t? might be the title of such an article.

        Heavens guys, an exit strategy may be the very best choice, rather than stay to fight the local monsters?

        For one example, Penang, Malaysia, enjoy a very nice low budget life there. At least 50 similar spots across Asia Pacific/China/Central America/Latin America/Mexico/Portugal.

        They are not called “expat havens” for nothing, cost of living is far lower and many other hassles greatly reduced (while one must accept some new hassles too, but likely far better than the ones you are departing from).

        Perhaps you’d rather spend your money on a stash of guns and ammo. I can’t say I would make that choice, when that money could easily be placed in an offshore bank account (nothing illegal about doing that) , waiting for you when the plane lands to start your new life. This is not difficult to plan and arrange, including employment, in today’s world with a plethora of info available on the web.

        Cheers, Mario

      • redwilldanaher January 16, 2014, 9:31 pm

        Another of Gary’s fantasies laid to waste by ZH:

        Precious Metals Manipulation Worse Than Libor, German Regulator Says
        Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/16/2014 – 14:29

        Remember when banks were exposed manipulating virtually everything except precious metals, because obviously nobody ever manipulates the price of gold and silver? After all, the biggest “conspiracy theory” of all is that crazy gold bugs blame every move against them on some vile manipulator. It may be time to shift yet another conspiracy “theory” into the “fact” bin, thanks to Elke Koenig, the president of Germany’s top financial regulator, Bafin, which apparently is not as corrupt, complicit and clueless as its US equivalent, and who said that in addition to currency rates, manipulation of precious metals “is worse than the Libor-rigging scandal.” Hear that Bart Chilton and friends from the CFTC?

      • redwilldanaher January 18, 2014, 4:56 pm

        I’d like to read more about the exit strategy. Which part of the plethora would you suggest I start with Mario? Not knowing how, why, when, where things could ignite or slowly disintegrate, I see no reason to not research the alternative that you suggest.

        Thanks.

      • mario cavolo January 21, 2014, 6:47 am

        Some direction for you on that to research…

        alot of info at http://www.internationaliving.com but focused mainly on central/latin america and not much info on Asia.

        Just type in “expat websites” and you’ll get a load, alternatively if you type in “countryname” expat you’ll get dozens, such as http://www.shanghaiexpat.com etc.

        But let me make it very simple to understand:

        1. Act as if you’re going on a longer vacation, its longer perhaps six months, so what would you arrange? Its pretty much the same. You would go to airbnb or craigslist or the country destination local classifieds to find a place to rent instead of a hotel. You do skype calls, etc. with the landlord, quite transparent. You could even first hunker down in a local hotel for the first two weeks and do your apt search after arriving, that’s also easy.

        2. You can ship boxes of your stuff over separately to the apt or hotel at which you’ve made the reservation. Cheapest by ship, they will take eight weeks to arrive.

        3. You setup a local bank account and make a deposit and get an ATM/debit card, lots of travelers/expats do that. Again, piece of cake with your passport

        4. Ponder if you wish to pursue a job or a business in your areas of interest and expertise. Many biz organizations with many expat members are there to join to guide you locally, to go to weekly networking events they always arrange, easy to meet new people who are empathetic and experienced in what you need to get familiar with and settle in.

        Cheers, Mario

    • BDTR January 14, 2014, 1:35 pm

      “Is today really any different than hundreds of other places and times?”

      Technically, an obvious yes, Gary. Also in terms of population density and environmental degradation.

      This is certainly a place for contrarianism, but you’re pushing it. Hatred is sad, yes, to be sure. So is fear.

      So is blind stupidity. You’re not stupid, but your view is obviously obstructed.

      Where’s Mario when we need him?

      • gary leibowitz January 14, 2014, 8:13 pm

        Hunker down for the last 5 years is your solution? Me, I’ll eat out, take in a movie, show, jazz, bar, concert and live a naïve simple life. If a car hits me sometime in the future, so be it. If civil war breaks out there is no such thing as being prepared, nor will it somehow make your mental state any less stressful. You might have the proper equipment and readers manual on how to survive, but I can assure you that will last only a short time. Life and events have a way of screwing the best of preparedness.

        This attitude must have already cost you stress these last 5 years waiting for the “inevitable”. I prefer to go with the flow. At what time in your lifetime was that not the best route? If the Great Depression, with no government safety net, didn’t create chaos, I’ll take my chances the next round. We can choose the life we live, or stay in constant fear of the unknown future.

        BTW, you are asking Mario to chime in for support? He lives in China and thinks their regime is the model for freedom. Need I say more?

      • BDTR January 15, 2014, 12:21 am

        You have a bad case of projection, Gary, and completely mischaracterizing Mario, in my view. Most of the time I enjoy your perspective in the mix in much the same way I enjoy VV at the other extreme.

        But sometimes you’re just insufferable.

        My poke at Mario was simply because I realize that he loathes the nature of this discussion, but could add, as he often does, passionate insight when so provoked.

        It’s usually a more civil discussion, and interesting, with Mario in the mix. He’s close to indispensable, especially when disagreeable.

        You, on the other hand…

      • Oregon January 15, 2014, 3:24 am

        “Me, I’ll eat out, take in a movie, show, jazz, bar, concert and live a naïve simple life.”

        Damn right you will, you don’t have a choice. Your water comes from the tap, your electricity from the socket, your crap goes down the toilet (except what ends up on this site), and your food comes from the store. Same for you as the other 10 million ants in your ant hole, I mean hill. What more is there to think about? Go with the flow man, somebody will take care of you if things go awry. Save cash? Put up food? Store water, batteries, etc.??? No need bro, big pappa gonna take care of you. Sure he’s had a little trouble getting the ACA website going, but shouldn’t be any problem getting the grid back up if things go down for a while and that will just give the ants a little time to get to know each other, and if it should last more than a week, all the better to become better friends. Just 10 million brothers and sisters “go’n with the flow”.

        Good on ya Gary.

        &&&&&&&

        A heartening post, Oregon. We can always use another pragmatic optimist around here. As for the ACA website, it’s lucky for us that it failed so badly, since the remediation process will have imparted some valuable lessons when TSHTF. Meanwhile, let’s hope the old UNIVAC machines are in good repair, since the Government coders who alone can save us will be doing their work by candlelight on punch cards. RA

      • gary leibowitz January 15, 2014, 7:48 am

        I actually like Mario and a good part of his views. He does prop up China with propaganda that seems a bit over stated. Perhaps you should take up his advice and move there since America isn’t worth living in.

        For the most part he has been very cordial to me, but don’t try to disparage his love for his adapted homeland. In fact I wouldn’t mind if everyone treated each other the way he has. I have taken too much time and effort on this topic that I know will not sway anyone.

        Have a good week.

      • mario cavolo January 16, 2014, 8:34 am

        I must object, as a matter of conversation here, to Gary’s suggestion that Mario and China and Propaganda somehow are all in the same sphere. They are absolutely NOT.

        I will tell you all this story to be clear: I have recently started a new biz project, which in fact we sense is going to go very well, it happens to be B2B promotion of e-cigarettes here in China and for many reasons in this market it looks like a brilliant idea.

        Now let me tell you my mindset living here in China and my expectations for that business:

        1. Next year the Shanghai Mayor is going to award longtime expat Mario Cavolo a “appreciated foreign citizen award” for supporting the health and harmony of Chinese society. My mother in law will be so proud and we will likely be far richer and more popular and my China book sales will take off to the moon and I will be invited to speak on the most prestigious stages around the world.

        Hold your horses.

        OR:

        2. Within six months to 2 years, someone in the Chinese govt IS going to knock on our door, SHUT US down without a discussion, seize our inventory, fine us, hassle us, end the business, because they are someone with power in the government who simply doesn’t like it.

        So does anyone think for a moment this is a place I have any kind of “love” for China? Come on. I am rationally observing and practical facing the realities of where I live, all the good and reasonable of it and all the bad and lunacy of it. I daily live with the pleasures of the good things here and in constant fear of what bad things could happen any day any time. As a foreigner here, we are particularly susceptible to additional risks. For example, I know of a foreigner on his bike who got run into by a local chinese lady on her scooter. The foreigner loses in that scenario every time. It is customary, even amongst Chinese in such situations, for one party to pay some money to the other for annoyance and injuries rendered, usually around $500-$1000. Because of the incident he also got found out to be working without an employment visa, a very common occurence here in China, and kicked out of the country. Good bye nice life in China pal and as George Carlin says “Nobody gives a f*ck about you”.

        So please, I’m not deep into the questions of love of country and patriotism about U.S., about Italy my home country nor China; only stark reality on planet earth and I have to reject accusations that I’m too rosy about China. I only am acting to share what is observably and reasonably self evident.

        Cheers, Mario

    • redwilldanaher January 16, 2014, 6:33 pm

      BTW Gary, I am still laughing at your news resources that trumpet the best of all possible worlds news items all the time. Do you avoid ZH and other critical sites like the plague?

      For what may be the 1 hundreth time, we get that the markets may continue higher, much higher, we’ve always gotten that Gary, but please don’t continue to show up here and tell us it is legtimate as it is anything but, or that it has always been this thoroughly corrupt, rigged, propagandazied because it hasn’t.

      And yes and yet again, for the record, yes, I would prefer to see the wall to wall beyond hope fully corrupted thoroughly evil “systems” go by the wayside even if that means short term upheaval. You can add the hyphens in for me since I have already wasted too much time with you (yet again). If cheering against evil makes me the “bad guy” then I welcome the role.

      Finally on your continued trek to modern absurdity, you rail against the outcomes (all the time, with your beguiled progressive heart) this evil construct produces and then defend it like it was your only child. You’re one of the most mixed up regular Internet commentators that I’ve ever run across, seriously.

      • redwilldanaher January 18, 2014, 6:54 pm
      • Redwilldanaher January 19, 2014, 4:51 am

        More gifts for you from zh:

        This is magnificent. This guy hallucinating too El Garo?

        “I happen to think that 2014 is a VERY different year than 2013 from a variety of viewpoints. First, there appears to be a dispersion of opinion about markets, valuations, policy frameworks and more. This is a healthy departure from YEARS of artificiality. Artificiality in valuations, artificiality in market and policy mechanics and essentially artificiality in EVERY financial, and real, relationship on the planet based on central bank(s) balance sheet expansion and other measures intended to be a stop-gap resolution to tightening financial conditions, adverse expectations of economic activity, and the great rollover” – Russ Certo, Brean Capital

  • VILE VLAD January 13, 2014, 10:01 pm

    hey. yu’all want to read something really funny?

    read this.

    “Detroit: Give us six months, and we’ll give you a recovery.”

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/not-all-is-lost-for-detroit–but-they-need-six-months-to-prove-it-060351480.html

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    and so the absurdly complacent insanity, goes right on.

    $$$$$$$$$$

    but let me show something, even more insane.

    the 5 year chart, of visa.

    and if you don’t see it, you can’t see.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=V+Interactive#symbol=v;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=candlestick;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

    $$$$$$$$$$$

    so you still think your ussa will just continue to just muddle along, wise john jay?

    because, I do not agree.

    and there is a huge cratered kaplunk, straight ahead.

    • mario cavolo January 16, 2014, 7:40 am

      I am going to suggest again in a friendly way on this particular duel between JJ and VLAD, a reminder of a key point…too much GENERALIZING of the entire population and how much money they have/earn.

      Fact is: the U.S. is 2 places now according economic/business demographics, not to mention a host of other political/government factors. I wish to attempt to impress upon you that the top 30% is doing very very well while the bottom 70% are are struggling. Let’s look at it not by population but household income.

      There are approx 120,000,000 million households in the U.S. of which 76 million are family households, which includes single parent households.

      Now tell me, what percentage of them are employed and doing well?

      Look here http://www.bls.gov/news.release/ocwage.t01.htm
      for a massive list of all jobs and their wages across the country including the number of employed, have fun adding up the subtotals they don’t provide.

      We must look at the ratios more precisely.

      If the TOP 30% are earning FAR more and the BOTTOM 70% are earning FAR less, then overall, that’s alot of money in the economy.

      The Top 30% of 120,000,000 households annual income:

      12 million at $200,000 = 2.4 trillion
      24 million at $100,000 = 2.4 trillion

      4.8 trillion total household income power. Many of those are dual income households.

      The Bottom 70%

      42 million at $40,000 = 1.7 trillion
      42 million at $15,000 = 630 billion

      2.33 trillion total income power.

      Get it? The top 30% of households have TWICE the income/asset power in the economy of the bottom 30%.

      I admit that the above is unverified but suggest it is a reasonable representation of household income reality across the U.S.

      So, sorry, unless and until the govt itself implodes everything, the economy/society itself is not going to be a catalysts to an Armageddon scenario.

      JJ is 100% right that when people need to survive they band together, get roommates and cut their budgets and survive. They don’t like it but they do what is necessary. In today’s world I don’t believe for one split second there will be any societally based giant revolt. Smaller uprisings / revolts by desperate, angry lower class fed-up citizens will be met with brute force and the rest will see it on TV and not be dumb enough to think that’s a party to join. Welcome to China? Oh sorry, you know I wasn’t referring to China. And in that respect, VV is right, two billion bullets, National Guard, military, etc. are all there to respond as needed to maintain stability and control. This ain’t a 1700’s Boston Tea Party scenario folks.

      Cheers, Mario

      • mario cavolo January 16, 2014, 7:50 am

        Typo…should read = Get it? The top 30% of households have TWICE the income/asset power in the economy of the bottom 70%.

  • Helen January 13, 2014, 8:52 pm

    With this grim prediction and all of the posts of hoarding guns and food, etc…..No one has thought about asking God to come back to our country that He was kicked out of over and over again and to once again protect us. Do you really think that all of your thought of perfect, well made plans will be sufficient enough to save? Do you really think you have it all figured out? Do you really want to be around when all of this havoc, terror, devastation and upheaval happens as is predicted? Not me.. I want to be among the first gone. If you are right with God…you will have no fear. Yes there is a hereafter. Yes today is the shortest day in the history of your soul! Too bad we creatures created by Him are too foolish and stupid to realize He is in control and we are NOT. Too bad we have forgotten Who answers prayer and Who moves mountains and Who can work miracles if we but turn our hearts around back to the ONE who is responsible for our very lives. Too bad we have forgotten Him. Yes America is on a downward spiral because we don’t know who God is. Plain and simple.

    • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 12:55 am

      helen, god is not the way. the way is you.
      and if your plan is to go away, you will.
      and if you want to stay, you might.
      trust you. and no one else.
      forget god. because,
      he does not exist.
      you know it.

    • Mario January 16, 2014, 5:20 am

      Helen I’m very much a man of faith that there is a Creator of this universe and the human existence, regardless of any individual preferences in the arena of religions. Even advances in science itself has revealed the infinite impossibility of Darwinism.

      But faith in God does not give us idealistic license to think great harm and suffering will not come upon people, this is clear throughout history. You treat coming to God as a solution to end suffering? Sorry my dear but existence, or existence was not at its mysterious conception designed that way, not with him or without him, so find your approach noble but far too simplistic.

      Cheers, Mario.

  • Jason S January 13, 2014, 8:45 pm

    Rick, you had to go and open up this can of worms? If anything like The Road comes to pass, humanity is mostly doomed no matter what you do to prepare for it. You may be able to fend off your inevitable death and destruction for a little while but your life is going to be unbearably miserable and demoralizing compared to what you have known. May as well worry about the sun going super nova.

  • mava January 13, 2014, 10:25 am

    What I never understood is why plan for a shoot-out in Stalingrad when there is going to be a Fiesta in Rio de Janeiro?

    As for the time, make it October 1st 2015 for the market to take the last dive.

  • John Jay January 13, 2014, 6:49 am

    I think we will continue to muddle on here in the States without a dramatic collapse.
    Look at Brazil, Argentina, etc.
    They have gone from crisis to crisis for decades without a total breakdown.
    The growing poor population here will simply pack multiple people/families into dense housing, and live as simply and cheaply as circumstances dictate.
    And submit to DC just as they always do.

    I think the more disturbing trend is already upon us.
    And that is the growing escape to Drug Land.
    Heroin seems to be all the rage once again. And it is not just ghetto dwellers using it, but well off suburban youths are enthralled by it too.
    Not to mention meth, coke, pot, prescription drugs, and, in the grand tradition, alcohol!
    Oh, and tattoos, lots and lots of tattoos!
    A nation of doped up drunks is unlikely to revolt, no matter what happens.

    We might see 1960s type riots where the poor burn down their own neighborhoods.
    No problem for Uncle Sam, he knows exactly how to meet violence with superior violence.
    An entire Police State is at the ready, just praying for the opportunity to suppress riots and engage in wholesale slaughter.
    And they don’t even need to go street by street, house by house a la WWII to triumph.
    Just cut off the utilities and close the grocery stores.
    And wait for the rapid surrender.

    So anyway, it is of course wise to have firearms in your house, you never know what can happen locally if you live in the city.
    If you live out in the country, I would bet your biggest problem would be nut job neighbors that know what you have that is worth stealing.
    Big city gangsters are unlikely to attack you Road Warrior style in a crisis.
    They will be too busy selling drugs and battling rivals back in the Hood.

    And if I am wrong and it does go Mad Max your biggest worry will not be city thugs.
    It will be unpaid rogue military units with all manner of heavy weapons, indirect fire weapons, tanks, gunships, you name it.
    And they will strip the cities bare before they go marauding out in the boonies.
    If they even bother at all.

    In the city a show of force with armed neighbors if any of the trouble spills over into the nicer areas should work until the Military crushes aimless, leaderless looters/rioters.

    Out in the country, you will probably be left alone.
    So fill your gun safe if you want, weapons/ammo should appreciate more than money in the bank anyway.
    If you are making survival plans you are way ahead of the pack for sure.
    You will probably be just fine.

    • BDTR January 13, 2014, 3:30 pm

      I’ll see your just fine probability, JJ, and raise you a get your affairs in order.

      Survival itself is not necessarily a best option outcome when the environment for said survivors is a radioactive wasteland. Reality bites like a mad pit bull.

      This is what it looks like, and notice the absence of tattooed roving gangs armed to the teeth, or vigilante neighbors standing armed at the ready to defend life, property and illusory freedom:

      http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/america-tonight-blog/2014/1/6/fukushima-decontaminationghosttowns.html

      So, when considering the comparative pitfalls of markets, occult authority plotting next moves against civil freedoms, boxes of ammo, bunker protein bars, and rocks, grey men or salvation from the sky… be clear about this:

      Three exploded nuclear reactors sit melting down today on the western Pacific rim working their inexorable magic downward to a massive explosive encounter with groundwater with NO actual technical prospect of eventual containment. The ‘decommissioning’ process is at least 40 years. But there’s no existent technology capable of achieving it. Even Chernobyl, capped repeatedly and will be again, has no prospect of a ‘final’ environmental recovery solution. But Chernobyl doesn’t have a 100% 20 year probability of recurring 8+ pointer ground shakes with attendant tsunami aftereffects threatening critically weakened surviving nuclear hardware in a deadly radioactive environment.

      For nearly three years now, daily, those same destroyed Daiichi reactors leach deadly radio isotopes, including plutonium and strontium-90 via groundwater into the ocean and venting into the air…far exceeding cumulative radiation release of all historic nuclear weapon detonations globally.

      There is no effective decontamination process for collected emergency coolant water being stored in already deteriorating tanks, hastily constructed and leaking toxic poison into the largest fishery on the planet. Infants and children of over 300k evacuees have dramatic percentages of thyroid tumors, as do many adults. The government has legislated emergency secrecy laws precluding the flow of pertinent public information to citizens and the world.

      This reality finds curiously scant attention in major corporate owned media and there’s little public awareness outside of Japan of the chronic suppression and falsification of critical public information. Far worse than Chernobyl yet virtually ignored with the exception of Aljazeera America, the international community has deferred to Japanese politicians already caught in a diabolical web of secrecy, suppression and lies.

      How ironic for the citizens of Japan that nuclear radiation instantly imposed by war won’t compare with that released by their own civil folly of arrogance, corruption and greed. And how fitting for western hubris that exports its technology packaged in tradition of occultism and greed. Pacific aquatic biology already appears catastrophically impacted despite bought and sold naysayers. The most productive fishery on the planet is doomed to a toxic dead zone of relentless, invisible migration.

      An already played-out Japanese economy is the precursive economic mystery domino awaiting our nervous anticipation of free fall. But the insidious creep of coup d’etat for industrial wonderland is already on. Naturally, we’re aggressively passive and blissfully oblivious in our preoccupation with personal security, political vendetta and profiteering the fantasy future of the Aquarian age. Prioritize, friends.

      Go Broncos.

      • John Jay January 13, 2014, 7:08 pm

        BDTR,

        I have noticed all the “A” list movie stars that have sold their Malibu type beach estates here in California.
        Coincidence?
        Or a rush to the exits?
        I am about 25 miles from the Pacific Ocean now, but also a lot closer to the San Andreas Fault.
        Earthquakes are over real quick, and if your building doesn’t collapse in 60 seconds of shaking, you made it!
        Radiation is not that straight forward.
        I’ll be watching for symptoms.

        But running away doesn’t always work out.
        Here is a story from my days as a mover.
        A rich lady had a premonition of a massive earthquake out here, and decided to flee to Ohio.
        The salesman talked her out of taking full value on her possessions which included her beautiful Jaguar!
        Because, “Nothing ever happens”

        Guess what happened?
        The moving van caught on fire and everything she owned was destroyed, and she got paid by the pound for her loss!
        Irony in action.
        Of course, the salesman thought it was hilarious.
        Of course.

      • BDTR January 14, 2014, 12:09 pm

        You’re absolutely right, JJ, about the hidden hazards of running. It’s always a calculation. Sometimes the math is simple, sometimes not so much.

        I had complete sympathy with Harry Truman’s resignation to the prospect of Mount St. Hellen’s eruption. It wasn’t mere obstinance of an ornery old man. He knew where he was and just unwilling to surrender quality for mere existence elsewhere. Wasn’t bravado, he just knew who he was.

        I miss Cali, or at least what it was once. Lived entirely on the coast in Santa Monica, then Santa Barbara and last in Marin’s Larkspur. So I grieve for what’s about to be lost and the panicked displacement of millions.

        All the bravado of survivalism is the vanity of fear. That, from a gun owner with provisions, a Simple Pump attached to my well, and valued neighbors on my suburban fringe cul-de-sac. We’ll pull together when push comes to shove but I realize the uncertainties of social upheaval. There’s plenty of examples, none of them pretty.

        I’d rather face a raging roadie than insidious radiation. Whatever ensues, I’ll try to keep Harry Truman in mind.

        Best to you, JJ.

    • Redwilldanaher January 13, 2014, 5:49 pm

      Recently have added to my family’s holdings. Added a few fast handling lever action rifles, several bows, and bought an ammo plant, had a lot we own cleared and filled etc.

      Not doing this to combat the police state and road warriors, doing it to have at least some sort of preparedness plan should the grid go down. At some point there will be another false flag that will cause “major disruptions” to our way of life. Lindsey Graham is a tool but one has to ask why he actually publicly voiced concern over nukes in Charleston especially in the wake of Obamao decapitating several high ranking military.

      Hacks also have me concerned. The clowns in charge couldn’t close an umbrella.

      • VILE VLAD January 13, 2014, 9:28 pm

        great post, redwill. probably your best ever.

        and I think you listened to me, 3 years ago, under a different pseudonym,
        that the future was bullets, as better than gold, as a armageddon barter item.

        however, listen up. produce fast as many bullets as you can, and store them elsewhere.
        because your ammo plant will be govt. controlled, or even closed, when [manure] hits fan.

        for the [manure]] will go down. and trust this–police state will be worse, than road warriors.

        and you must have a large family, to get all those fast action lever rifles. so good idea.

        read the posts I made above.
        1. your own land, water well handpumped, supply.
        2. your solar, many panel fed, battery energy supply.
        3. your longterm food supply, maintained in regulared temperature.
        4. seeds to plant, if you can get them, but hard to get, in ussa controlled state.
        5. varied weapons, and TONS of bullets, which you have already done, so kudos.
        6. antibiotics and medicines, and top first-aid manuals, as I already wrote above.
        7. books to read. to avoid boredom. no tv. no internet. no radio. just books.
        8. some books on soldier survival. for you must consider that you are a soldier.
        9. and mostly beware of unprepared neighbors. for they will try to rob you first.
        10. all else, is fate. example, last week, 4 teens where killed by lighting. playing in beach.

      • redwilldanaher January 14, 2014, 1:16 am

        I am thinking about adding a few crossbows but want to add that the recurve long bow makes a lot of sense. After reading some material written by folks that thought about these scenarios for a good long time, it becomes clear that low-tech, rugged and dependable are critcal characteristics.

        I am not an expert but I settled on 2 main calibers, .308 and .223, and 2 other calibers, .22lr and 30-30 win, although I will pick up another lever action to match my pistol caliber. Currently have 9mm, .357 sig and considering 44 or 45-70 govt to be match with lever that I’ll buy.

        Vlad, ammo plant I scooped a while back from Hornady. (Right after the ‘Nanke said subprime was contained) I have supplies to make a few thousand rounds but would like to add to that greatly.

        I moved to coastal SC a while back, coming up on a decade soon. There were many motivations for doing so, a lifelong dream of escaping from the Philly/NYC corridor was not the least among them but it paled when compared to the welfare of my children. I did a lot of research and made my selection on the SC coast. Aside from the ocean, there are many rivers, streams, woods, low population density and relatively friendly laws and taxes. I don’t know of the ideal place but this is a vast improvement in nearly all ways from where we were, about 45 minutes from Rick’s hometown of AC, a little place called Medford/Medford Lakes, a good chance Rick knows that area. The engineered booms of the 90’s and 00’s changed Medford from a laid back town with farms, fields and forests into a budding yuppie wasteland that was overpopulated with Toll Bros. McMansions.

        Other than the food near NYC and Philthydelphia, I miss nothing with respect to the area itself.

        I came here with an open mind and not that it’s perfect, but I must admit that I much prefer living in Dixieland then back in Yankeedom.

        The thing is, if you can do things the proper way, the “prepper” stuff really isn’t money wasted, at least not entirely. I don’t know how things would play out but I wanted to give myself a fighting chance and were still working towards that goal. Once Obamao is reelected again, I may be tempted to kick out all my inventory for big profits! He’s the best thing that ever happened to longs of long guns!

      • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 9:09 pm

        redwill, I will add to my post to you above.

        your own clean home water source is crucial. more important than electricity.
        and I wrote you about a well, or 2. and hand-pumpened. old-fashioned.

        however, there are 2 additional factors I thought about today, to consider.
        recent ‘fracking’ all over the ussa. I just saw a good film about it, with m. damon.
        you must be sure your water is not contaminated by chemicals, of nearby fracking.

        also, there is another way to have your own water, other than with wells.
        and I don’t know how much regular rains you get in your south carolina area.
        but, I once visited a private island, with no fresh water source, except rain water.
        and they had a huge container to capture it, well lined, with the proper chemicals,
        to avoid bacteria, algae, etc. for without those required cleansing chemicals,
        your stored water is too dangerous to drink, or you’ll get all sorts of diseases.

        bottomline–a private, daily steady, clean water source, is most important thing,
        in any kind of infrastructure longterm breakdown. but maybe you have this already.
        for you’d be surprised just how many gallons of clean water each human uses daily,
        and not just to drink, but to wash up, clean food pots, etc.

    • Jason S January 13, 2014, 9:09 pm

      John Jay, I think you are 100% right-on with your assessment and expectations. The book Lucifer’s Hammer exemplifies the problem with rogue military groups in this scenario.

      If it comes down to this, God help us all and maybe we should have a lethal OD supply of heroin on hand so we can go out in bliss.

      • John Jay January 13, 2014, 9:57 pm

        Jason,

        Re: Rogue Military

        It won’t happen until DC runs out of money.
        We are at the center of the Black Hole of Debt.
        So the rest of the world will implode first, so we should have time enough to live out our lives.
        Japan is tottering right now, Western Europe is in the process of financial suicide.
        We should be helped along by “Flight to Safety” wealth for a while.

        However, infighting is growing for funds for our Military. The Marines have not made a major amphibious assault since Inchon, over 60 years ago.
        So they are going to shrink the Corps some more.
        Next, I will bet the Airborne Divisions will come under scrutiny, it has been a long time since D Day.
        And don’t forget, Big Sis, on her way out the door, said the Military should be under the DHS and not independent.
        Wolves v Lions v Hyenas v Jackals v King Cobras v Tigers with Killer Whales, Sharks, and Piranhas if you are in the water.
        Don’t get involved if you can avoid it!

      • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 12:48 am

        hey, jay, even the idiot arrogant custer said, of keeping the last bullet, for yourself.
        for, american indian torture, was proof of male strength (see last of the mohicans,
        or better yet, a man called horse, to see what I mean, and I’ve read it was much worse,
        for american indians to do, like the oldtime chinese also, loved carving the skin off,
        and rubbing salt on unskinned, to see how they’d scream. I like study of torture).

        but I agree. it is better to die in your sleep, than tortured, or nuked, or in fear.
        even if it is self induced. heroin. whatever. don’t know it. but I prefer booze death.

    • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 12:17 am

      jj, I concur, that ussa big city working people, are the first totally mega fast screwed.
      however, those in the country, and prepared, will eventually, get touched hard.

      and first, by unprepared neighbors. so they must be ready, to shoot and kill, them.

      hard to shoot and kill, a neighbor. unless you have a family, to provide for. so decide.

      but sometimes I think you are going senile, john jay. since no one anywhere, ‘will be fine’.
      and you remind me of russell, the wise octagerian, in your comments, and also, drooling.
      whatever. who gives a manure. for we all going to be extinct, soon, one way or another.

      who cares. yawn. ‘death, be not proud’. but I am proud. and don’t give a manure.
      so, as billy joel sort of quasi said, you are all rock roll entertainment to me.

  • laurent jubinville January 13, 2014, 6:48 am

    The key lies in forming alliances. First scenario: you and your neighbours’ root cellar/fortress is well stocked up and together you will hunker down and defend your cup-de-sac till you run out of supplies and/or ammunition, to finally face the marauders that kill you and take what is left. What a battle, it may have bought you two years.
    Second scenario: your stock and supplies are shared with one and all that desires to align himself with you and participate in strengthening the situation within a co-operative resource base. This has two possible endgames. Either you all have a very peaceful and noble death when necessities run out after two months, or you end up with a strong community that is on the road to survival. Neither constitutes any fighting, but it has the chance of yielding great results.
    Sorry, who am kidding? I forgot,this is Post-Eden earth…….but just maybe …a slim chance????
    Nevertheless, alliances is the key.

    Thanks RA….provoking thoughts like you do is also certainly a great contribution towards the key.

    • VILE VLAD January 13, 2014, 8:46 pm

      I do not agree that alliance is the key. that is weak.
      for the key is home geography. where you live.
      and steady supply, of you own ground water.

      and 1 year –minimum– of properly stored supplies.
      and several type of weapons, with TONS of bullets.
      for bullets will be TOP barter item, when shhtt hits.

      as rick won’t last more than a week, in his absurd suburban cul-de-sac, and peewee ruger.

      listen, ussa children. obama’s 1%er presidential opponent wasn’t worth much, however—

      he said one GREAT truth, and it is why he lost election, since americanus DETEST truth.

      47% of americanus oblivious extinctus, DO NOT PAY ANY TAXES. HUH? do you get it?

      for it is this LESSER ‘give me a freebie daily’ half, will WIPE YOU ALL OUT, like roaches.
      and by YOU, I mean anyone that still works HARD for a living, in land of brainWASHED.

      hey, your govt. didn’t buy 2 BILLION bullets 2 years ago, for notin’. 2 BI-LLION, not 2 mil.
      and a good portion of them, where HOLLOWPOINT. so, there’s no time for prisoners. yep.

      I have said repeatedly, the best novel to read, to properly prepare, and see the future,
      is sci-fi ‘lucifer’s hammer.’ I have written this here several times, over last 3 years.

      ‘lucifer’s hammer’ makes ‘the road’, not only look like a pussy novel, but, simplistic one.

      and it is all more serious than you all think. and that includes you, ackerman.
      unless, of course, you are one of the pampered 10%ers. which I have long suspected.

  • Marc Berman January 13, 2014, 5:00 am

    .308 I think is the best with a mixture of standard, incendiary and armor piercing rounds. Selective fire, if available is convenient. Crossbows are useful and quiet. Night vision a plus. Have an assortment of knives and, yes, swords. Don’t settle for anything less than a .45 or .38 special handgun, with lasers of course. A hand crank generator superior to an electric start (EMP defensive) one along with a propane based generator is recommended. Get a ham radio license, since cellphones and landlines will trash out. Get portable solar powered large capacity batteries. Besides stockpile of food and water, buy a colloidal silver generator and keep a backup of medications, etc. If you know someone good at electronics, a high-powered laser can only be helpful.

    • VILE VLAD January 13, 2014, 8:18 pm

      finally this site is getting good. right up my road. preparation for the unavoidable.
      as I see that there are still a few rugged american individualists left today, though certainly not in the majority, and that’s for damn sure.
      and apparently they only come out of the woodwork when they think they can add more, to their loner fold. good.
      I have been touting this years, herein, and for 3 or 4 years, under different pseudonyms, and now, I see, a few have listened, or already knew as much as I.

      ok.

      I will address first marc berman, IN CAPS. line by line. since I respect his preparation.

      $$$$$$$$$$$$

      .308 I think is the best with a mixture of standard, incendiary and armor piercing rounds. Selective fire, if available is convenient.

      DON’T KNOW ENOUGH TO COMMENT ON .308 CALIBER,
      BUT, –STILL– EASY TO GET .38, SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH.
      AND THE KEY OPERATIVE HERE, IS –STILL–.
      BECAUSE THE FINAL UNSTOPPABLE SHHT STORM GOES DOWN,
      THE FIRST THING YOUR USA GOVT. WILL BAN, IS THE SALE AND PURCHASE,
      OF BULLETS. FOR THEY ARE EASIER TO CONTROL THAN WEAPONS.
      I HAVE SAID THIS HERE FOR AT LEAST 3 YEARS. AND ONLY REDWILL LISTENED.
      FOR AFTER ARMAGEDDON HITS, BULLETS WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN GOLD.

      Crossbows are useful and quiet.

      AGREED. I AM GOING TO GET ONE SOON, THANKS FOR REMINDER.

      Night vision a plus.

      CORRECT. BUT TOO EXPENSIVE FOR MOST SIMPLE FOLK.

      Have an assortment of knives and, yes, swords.

      I ALSO HAVE THE SAME, SMALL OR LARGE, HUNTER’S 5 KNUCKLE KNIVES.
      HOWEVER, I HAVE MACHETES, NOT SWORDS.
      MACHETES ARE WHAT [people of the Hispanic persuasion) USE, TO CARVE INTRUDERS, AND WITH PLEASURE.

      Don’t settle for anything less than a .45 or .38 special handgun, with lasers of course.

      I WILL NOT DISCUSS MY FIREARMS. HOWEVER, LASERS ON SCOPE, A BIG PLUS.

      A hand crank generator superior to an electric start (EMP defensive) one along with a propane based generator is recommended.

      AGREE ON HAND-CRANK, FOR SURE. (BUT WHERE WILL YOU GET PROPANE?)

      Get a ham radio license, since cellphones and landlines will trash out.

      GOOD IDEA, NEVER THOUGHT OF IT. BUT THEN AGAIN, I AIN’T IN THE USSA.

      Get portable solar powered large capacity batteries.

      AND THIS IS FOR DAMN SURE.
      AND DO IT RIGHT NOW, BEFORE THEY ARE ALL GONE. WHOOSH. ALL GONE.

      Besides stockpile of food and water, buy a colloidal silver generator

      DON’T KNOW WHAT A COLLOIDAL SILVER GEN IS. SO CAN’T COMMENT.
      HOWEVER, I DO KNOW ABOUT PROPER WAY TO STOCKFILE FOOD,
      TO LAST FOR YEARS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS,
      TEMPERATURE. STABLE TEMPERATURE. SO YOU MUST HAVE A ROOM
      JUST FOR FOOD STORAGE, WITH REVERSIBLE A/C, DRIVEN BY YOUR GENERATOR,
      WHICH OF COURSE, SHOULD BE DRIVEN BY THE SUN, MOST RELIABLE SOURSE.

      and keep a backup of medications, etc.

      INDUBITABLY.
      AND NOT JUST THEM, BUT ALSO EMERGENCY AID –MANUALS–.
      HOW TO PULL OUT BULLETS, TAKE CARE OF WOUNDS,
      AND TONS OF ORAL AND TOPICAL ANTIBIOTICS.

      If you know someone good at electronics, a high-powered laser can only be helpful.

      HUH? HA. DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS ONE. HAVE TO BE RICH FOR THIS ONE.

      $$$$$$$$$

      AS FINAL COMMENT, I THINK YOU HAVE NOT STATED MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL.

      BECAUSE ‘STORED WATER’, WILL –NEVER– BE ENOUGH, FOR DAILY NEED.

      YOU NEED A WELL, OR 2 WELLS, ON YOUR LAND, AND OPERATED BY
      OLD FASHIONED HANDPUMPS. MOST IMPORTANT THING, OF ALL.

      AND, GOOD POST, BERMAN. YOU HAVE JUST MADE THIS SITE, BETTER.

      • Rick Ackerman January 13, 2014, 11:59 pm

        Yo, Vlad: Back off the ‘caps’ lock, please.

      • VILE VLAD January 14, 2014, 1:17 am

        why do caplocks SCARE you? a freudian psychological HONEST question.
        you are afraid of in your face SCREAMING? hum. interesting. ok. no problema, kid.

        &&&&&

        It’s not really a fear of your screaming, Vlad, but a matter of etiquette. That, and the fact that seeing everything in caps is typographically annoying. And it’s ugly, too. RA

    • Iro Noiro January 15, 2014, 5:56 am

      Here is my 2 cents on the Inflation/Deflation argument:
      Using a stock share consolidation example,
      if a large company like Google was going bankrupt due to enormous debt does the public actually believe the shares would hyper-inflate? Do you think they would attempt to raise more money and print more shares through another share issue and that will cause their coffers to fill and stock to double? Do you think they could raise the money from the public or private interest! They would have to cut out expenses or raise revenue by charging more for advertising or come up with some miracle.
      The only thing that could happen is DEFLATION… In other words those shares would collapse and then, only then a consolidation at bargain value could occur and start anew. Just as a company cannot hyperinflate – neither can the state and local levels.