How Will You Avoid Ruin?

We’ve known all along that The Great Bull Market that began in March of 2009 would end badly, mainly because The Great Recession that brought the economy crashing down 18 months earlier is still very much with us.  Granted, corporate profits have been a bright spot, at least until recently (a modest achievement, considering the trillions in borrowing it has cost us to create the mere appearance of recovery).  But the growth in profits came at the expense of the workers themselves; for in fact, incomes have continued to fall in real terms, accelerating a trend that had been waxing for decades.  With this has come a shrinkage in job opportunities that is due in part to a mismatch between the college degrees that are most popular these days –i.e., basket weaving and feminist studies – and a labor market whose growth has come almost entirely from McJobs and part-time positions.

Imploding Job Market

Employment prospects for the young are likely to implode in the years ahead for several reasons. For one, baby boomers are no longer able to gracefully vacate their desks and free up positions for new hires because most of the boomers are too strapped to retire.  To make matters worse, the money they had counted on inheriting from their parents has dwindled as the latter have drawn down savings to offset the paltry yields engineered by our stupid, dishonest, corrupt, terminally inept Government.  And then there is Obamacare, presciently labeled “the worst piece of legislation ever” by the Wall Street Journal when it was rammed down our throats a couple of years ago. We have serious doubts that Obamacare will ever be implemented, since the program appears to be asphyxiating under the weight of its own red tape. Even so, businesses have already reshaped themselves to Obamacare’s economically suicidal rules, including one that would make it prohibitively expensive to operate a business that crosses the 50-employee threshold by just a little.

And so America is in the untenable position of counting on 20- and 30-somethings, for whom high-paying, stable jobs do not exist, to finance Uncle Sam’s pay-as-you go Ponzi schemes of Medicare and Social Security.  For tens of millions of Americans, unfortunately, the only conceivable outcome is a slide into poverty so deep that it will make the 1930s Depression look like a picnic.

The Question of the Week:  What steps have you taken to avoid falling into this deep, dark abyss?

  • BKL September 16, 2013, 3:36 am

    People only hear about Colorado when there is fire and flood. I remember reading somewhere, that Boulder experiences winds of over 100 mph about once every two years, on average.

    But Colorado is the most underrated place in America, in terms of weather and natural environment. Lots of bright sunshine and low humidity. I do see advantages to living out on the prairie, slightly separated from the mountains and forests. It costs about half as much, for one thing!

    I was born in Colorado Springs and lived in Denver till I was seven. That was a long time ago. Colorado was heaven on earth. Still not a bad place.

    I remember my Dad arguing with my Mom, wanting to borrow $3,000 to buy an old Victorian cottage on Main Street….in Aspen! That was 1960.

  • Rich September 13, 2013, 7:10 pm

    Rick, reading about 30 feet walls of water in Boulder on Drudge, trust you and yours are swell

  • John Jay September 13, 2013, 3:36 pm

    Rick,
    Don’t you live in Boulder?
    I hope your house is on high ground away from all the flooding out there.
    Let us know if you are affected by all that rain.

    &&&&&

    Thanks for your concern, John. My neighborhood, which is just south of Boulder, was largely unaffected — just a puddle in one corner of the basement. However, a mere dog-walk from my home is a stream that usually trickles. Two nights ago, however, it was a raging torrent. Even so, the surge was well below levels that would have threatened the homes near its banks.

    Within ten miles of me, however, the damage has been devastating, especially in the canyons that have been carved out of the Rocky Mountain foothills that tower above Boulder and which form the westernmost edge of the Great Plains. RA

    • gary leibowitz September 13, 2013, 6:23 pm

      I just visited Boulder 3 days ago. Who would have thought that another flash flood like the one in the 70’s would occur again. I must have spend miles on foot doing urban hiking and park trails. Loved the scene. A 60’s atmosphere with a modern very expensive life style.

    • gary leibowitz September 13, 2013, 6:51 pm

      Meant to say I was in Boulder 3 days before the flood.
      Visited Estes Park, Boulder, and Breckenridge.

      &&&&&

      My wife grew up in Boulder and recalls the 1974 flood as an overwhelming disaster. Most of the damage was north of where the current devastation has occurred. The forests had not been denuded by fire or beetle infestations then, but the water itself flowed out of the Rockies with enough volume and force to inundate the flatlands east to Loveland.

      Ironically, Boulder Creek is one of Boulder’s most enjoyable natural assets. It supports trout fishing and tubing and on hot days attracts many waders. The Dushanbe Tea House sits on the creek and, with the sound of rushing water all around, is one of the post pleasurable places one could imagine to idle away an hour. RA

    • John Jay September 15, 2013, 5:04 am

      Glad to hear your family is AOK Rick.
      That is real tough for your devastated neighbors with Winter rapidly approaching there.
      You never know when your normalcy bias will collide with reality in this life.

  • gary leibowitz September 12, 2013, 5:54 pm

    How to avoid ruin? Stop catering to your worst fears. This argument has been going on for over 4 years now and the world is still spinning on its axis. When you expect the worst you are already living it. Why would you ponder such thoughts when we have so little control over the outcome? If you believe bad times are coming spend less and save more. If it means the difference between living a “normal” live or one in misery than by all means ignore your own internal warnings and allow events to unfold without adding to the stress.

    All thru history people have proclaimed their times were a precursor to the second coming. Are we so far removed from these past examples to declare this time is different? We love to complain even as our general well being is raised.

    Preparation doesn’t mean emotional paralysis. Like anything in life you must adapt and set a course that best fits your comfort level without already feeling you are living in despair. Why push forward the timeline when/if disaster occurs? Should you live as a drowning victim before the flood?

    • Craig September 12, 2013, 11:11 pm

      Gary is my favorite (least favorite) type of people and is the reason America is staring into the abyss. Are you a politician or do you work for the Fed…I know it’s neither just a useful idiot for both.

      He is the type that blames the doom and gloomers for the stock market crashes. When it is caused by overleveraging (we are at the highest levels ever even beating 2007 levels).

      So Gary if the dollar collapses and gold goes over $6,000 will you be blaming the goldbugs???? Like our government will do and will make retroactive taxes for “windfall profits” and make the whole market go underground again, due to the barbaric relic will be a “strategic resource” and it will be “patriotic” to turn it in….see 1933….also see most people said FU and didn’t turn it in…well the smart ones….not the sheep… Before FDR doubled the gold price overnight for his banker friends.

      But the useful idiots do their job well, they wear me out and make me give up….there are too many of you and you all relentless….you will also blame everyone for what is to come, when it was you.

    • Redwilldanaher September 13, 2013, 4:56 am

      Thanks for taking the time Craig.

    • gary leibowitz September 13, 2013, 6:18 pm

      Never mind. Live your life in misery as you have these last 4 years. The misery on your part is because total devastation hasn’t already happened. Sad to think people are actually rooting for a total collapse of the system and seem angry it didn’t already happen.

      My view has already played out and now I expect a short down draft of less than a year followed by another year or more of economic improvement. Everyone knows that I still see an outcome of pain and suffering, but I suppose it is tame compared to the views here.

      I mention common sense approach to life and for some reason it is considered radical. Waste your time and emotions on a scenario that might or might not happen and allow the world to pass you by. By all means don’t stop and contemplate what you already have and how lucky you are to be born in this era and this country. I guess that means I am a government spy speaking such radical thoughts.

      Does anyone have moments of joy during these last 5 years, or is it a betrayal of your belief system to allow such ideas to creep in? Get a life!

    • mava September 13, 2013, 9:05 pm

      Why do you necessarily connect lack of joy and down feelings with sober expectation of total collapse?

      These two have nothing to do with each other. Well, unless you are Ben Bernanke and you actually get to benefit from all that freshly printed game point currency we call dollars.

      One can be soberly expecting total ruin, and yet be happy and joyful and go on with his life. I think you went ahead and connected this mistakenly, think it over, Gary.

      For a small but useful example, consider a soldier going to war. He soberly expects to be KIA, and so he makes all the preparations and writes a will. Beyond doing all that he can do, he then continues to enjoy his life, now HOPING for the best.

      This is what differentiates him from a fool. A fool thinks it is not necessary to prepare for the worst. This is also what differentiates him from a pussy. A pussy wails and sobs around his dark future, whether or not he makes the preparations.

      I think you guys are arguing about these things, before actually taking time defining the terms. Kind of like the democrats argue with republicans about purposefully mixed up subjects.

      Prepare. But, by all means, have fun watching it collapse!

      BTW, Gary, that’s exactly what I have said above in my original post: ” At least rejoice that not everyone is born lucky enough to be a witness to the biggest bloodbath ever.”

    • Craig September 13, 2013, 9:53 pm

      Gary,

      I will put it bluntly why this is so frustrating for us that are awake…..frustrates me no end the selfishness and short sightedness of people today. This fight is not about some disaster or how my life span will be comfortable or not! Think beyond yourself and next weekend.

      We care more about YOUR childrens future than you do!

    • Craig September 13, 2013, 10:08 pm

      Gary,

      Don’t project your faults on us. I actually joke/laugh/smile too much at work and I have a very serious job. You pretend your having fun an say we are not because we take time to talk about a serious issue….but guess what Gary??? You think once someone realizes things are going bad they turn off the electricity stop talking to everyone and just sit in a bunker and post on blogs and make utube videos. You have been “programed” by the media (your master) well, very well indeed. You act like it’s stupid to buy toilet paper until after you take a dump then you go to the store and buy three sheets….a miserable prepper would buy 4 rolls at a time an save money…how does anyone live such a miserable life??? I buy some peeps here and there along with a 6 pack of Guinness to enjoy from the greatest view in the best city then go have fun that night and the weekend. I swear all these miserable people that pretend to be happy and expect anyone that makes a stand or is informed is unhappy! We are very happy, we are just smart enough to say there is a turd in the punch bowl stop drinking it, drink something else and party on, while you scream why are you ruining the party, the turd doesn’t exist and why are you so unhappy to not want to drink from the bowl with a turd in it!!!

    • gary leibowitz September 14, 2013, 8:47 pm

      Apologize to those that have not let the assumed future devastation affect their lives today. The weight of discussion seems way too dark. I myself would find it hard to live a happy life if I believed so much dire forecasts on so many fronts. Add to the notion that not much can be done to alter this path and you have recipe for continued anger and frustration.

      It seems so many of you are preparing for the worse case scenario at the expense of enjoying what we currently have. Anger has been spent on this blog over a world that still has not bent its knees into submission. I wonder how many would be relieved if their worse case scenario never occurs?

      If I am wrong on this point I apologize. Hope these discussions are just a healthy exercise in predicting the future.

    • Craig September 16, 2013, 6:46 pm

      Gary….you want to predict the future? Just read what they write and listen to what they say (they=the puppets and planners to the powers that be). It’s been almost 100%. That’s why people that are awake get so frustrated with the people that nay say but never ever look at the overwhelming evidence. Here is the trick and it is almost impossible to do, due to the massive manipulation…is the timing of the moves. Being correct on the timing is more important than being right on the direction. They tell u the direction…but ONLY the insiders know the timing. That’s what Ricks sight is for to predict or at least have an educated guess at the timing.

  • Marc September 11, 2013, 7:49 pm

    Dave, I certainly understand your skepticism of most doom-and-gloomers. But remember, a broken clock is right twice a day, and just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me. All you have to look at is the amount of US dollar-denominated debt in existence to see that something has got to give. As I wrote above, I’ve prepared in some of the ways you’ve belittled, but I would say it was quite reasonable. I accumulated over a year’s worth of freeze-dried food, but not some random compilation that was prepackaged for the fearful. I bought it all piecemeal over several years, when things were on sale, and I only bought what I consider nutritious food (meat & dairy, vegetables, fruits) that my family would actually eat, not a bunch of empty carb pasta and rice dishes. Now we use some of it each year and replace it in an ongoing rotation.

    I also bought a fair amount of bullion, but I bought it all when gold was under $400/oz. and silver $6/oz., and I even unloaded a bit when they were much higher. That is part of being prudent — acting upon rational analysis, without regard to everyone else’s current emotional state as reflected in the markets. If one makes these kinds of decisions during periods of public hype, then sure, one will get burned. But that’s for the sheep and the lemmings.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 10:57 pm

      Those sheep and Lemmings you speak of…….do they come freeze dried?

    • mary September 12, 2013, 12:47 am

      Cam, touche. 😉

      but really, Marc is correct. What he’s talking about is what people who live in the temperate zones have done for millennia–save some of the harvest from good years as protection during the lean years. It is not “crazy prepping.”

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 12, 2013, 10:42 am

      Agree 100% Mary. My own family was brought up on the philosophy of storing preserves, cured meats, cheese and home canning for up to a year in advance. That really is not so unusual on the distant farms in Canada or traditional European homes especially those with older family members still around. Root cellars are absolutely essential too where you can keep carrots and other hard veggies right through to spring. Not many people adhere to the old time practices anymore though, relying instead on just in time delivery (JIT) to get their processed meals daily. It is a vulnerability in most homes these days that food is no longer stored as it once was. Even the old fashioned idea of keeping a hundred weight sack of flour or sugar seems to have gone the way of the Dodo. Who has the time to bake anyway? Seems it is only the farm folk with bins of grains, flour mills, livestock and other essential stores that still respect ideas that we used to live and die by. That is, keeping enough food on hand to surive the worst a hard winter might throw at us and enough reserves to protect against any unknown emergency that could erupt unexpectedly. We sure have a lot of faith in our system these days. I wonder how well placed it is.

  • Redwilldanaher September 11, 2013, 7:35 pm

    I am loving the Dave and Pat show. I hoped it is renewed for next season. There have been several historic in any context crashes in the past 15 years and these tools act as if they never happened. Got white mouse retention syndrome? All time highs in across the board manipulation is what supports your best of all possible worlds. The silver lining for me when the boot is on the face of the people is that it will be on yours as well…

    • Troll September 12, 2013, 1:47 am

      Red, you really ought to try prozac . . . cheer up, man!

    • Redwilldanaher September 12, 2013, 4:00 pm

      Keep licking troll, keep licking…

      “Ironically enough, the only people who can hold up indefinitely under the stress of modern war are psychotics.” – Huxley

    • Troll September 13, 2013, 3:11 am

      No, Red . . . all I can tell you is you are not the person I want to spend Thanksgiving Dinner with. You haven’t got a single good thing to say about anything. You are a miserable, old curmudgeon. Deal with that and you can sit by yourself and wonder why no one likes you in real life, let alone here, on the internet.

      ****

      Note: In ‘real life’ that has included some private e-mail exchanges, I’ve grown quite fond of Red. RA

    • Redwilldanaher September 13, 2013, 4:32 pm

      Thanks Rick, and I of you. That gets me off the snide! 1 friend and counting. The momentum has shifted!

      We’re reminded yet again that it is poor business to try to sell truth to the masses that prefer, no depend, no, are addicted, to lies…

    • Redwilldanaher September 14, 2013, 1:11 am

      When the hopes and dreams of the entire global financial system rest on the lies of politicians, the whims of central bankers, and the mountains of debt they have all accumulated, things could turn on a dime… tomorrow.

      The above snippet is the “ball”. It troubles the trolls and garies of the world that a small group of us refuse to take our eye off the ball. Keeping your eye on the ball at all times in all endeavors is always important.

  • Pat September 11, 2013, 6:49 pm

    Yup, definitely boring, but very profitable !

    Gold…. ? that’s for the doomandgloomers…forget it !

  • Pat September 11, 2013, 6:26 pm

    This one is easy…. just buy and hold good blue chip-dividend paying stocks. I’ve made more money in the last 3 years ( almost 6 figures) than in the 10 years before. Anyone who thinks that TPTB are going to let the stock market crash are delusional ! “They” have complete control and it makes little difference what happens on Main St. or elsewhere around the globe. The markets will simply leave you behind if you stay out or crush you if you try to short it.

    Stay off the doom and gloom sites like ZH and just stay invested in quality companies that pay fat dividends and you’ll do fine. The US economy and stock market are NOT going to implode … LOL We’ve been hearing that for what 10-15 years now ?

    I expect the markets to rally strongly into the end of the year. The Dow could easily get to 17K and the SPX to 1800. And if the Dem’s get control of the House of Rep. next year it’s off to Dow 20K.

    Forget the doom and gloomers and sleep well at night, the markets are going MUCH higher !

    • Dave September 11, 2013, 6:42 pm

      Sounds like a plan! Time to resubscribe to Bob Brinker’s Marketimer newsletter! No doom, gloom, 3 boring portfolios to follow but all up 500-1500%
      Guess you’re not buying gold?

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 12, 2013, 2:26 pm

      Who is Bob Brinker? Are you guys advertising?

  • Andrew Gutterman September 11, 2013, 4:28 pm

    So the question was: What steps have you taken to avoid falling into this deep, dark abyss? I notice a lot of philosophical answers.

    I’m a relatively low income self employed individual, married, with some help from my wife. We own our house with a mortgage with taxes and insurance of less than $1000/mo.

    We own an open used and rare bookshop. Selling in the shop, but more importantly, selling online at such sites as Amazon, ABE and Alibris, to name but a few.

    We also have two double booths at the largest antique mall on the east coast, a few miles from here. We sell books and lots of knick knacks, as well as objects d’art.

    Last but not least we do software for booksellers. Been doing this since 1996. Subscription basis, so we get revenue in every month, growing slowly. The software provides about half of our income.

    So its a four legged stool. Usually one of the bookseller legs is broken, most often the shop. Not in a good location, but we took it because its across the street from our house. One minute commute, if that.

    We sell online worldwide. Lots of fold overseas in much better shape than the US consumer. Just sold some model shipbuilding plans to a Russian collector for $170, I paid a dollar for them several years ago.

    Our market in all of these ventures is the 40% that isn’t aware of any depression that happens, just like my grandfather was during the thirties. Self employed also. In fact nobody in my family back then was affected at all by the depression. The war was much worse.

    That’s the secret. I can’t get laid off or downsized. How much income we make is somewhat up to us. The market for our goods and services will die out when we do, what happens after that doesn’t matter.

    I’m confident we will have another depression, but I’m also confident that although it might be worse than the last one we will still have a functioning economy.

    If we don’t then we are dead. Being dead means I won’t have to worry about what might or might not happen.

    Andy

    • Jason S September 11, 2013, 5:11 pm

      Andrew, do you have a website? I collect books and would be interested in shopping.

      Thanks.

    • Andrew Gutterman September 11, 2013, 9:37 pm
    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 10:54 pm

      Thanks Andy. Great comment. Best of luck with all.

  • mario cavolo September 11, 2013, 4:10 pm

    For the record, analysts are completely mistaken with their current line that the new low end Iphone is priced too high for the China market…Cheers, Mario

  • mario cavolo September 11, 2013, 3:48 pm

    The weirdest thing gang, its two days in a row now that we’ve just watched the DOW jump to the moon with the S&P and the Nasdaq not budging. I’ve been watching the tape for years and have never seen such a change before…I like to wonder what’s behind it….Cheers, Mario

    • gary leibowitz September 11, 2013, 4:53 pm

      Not so unusual since the DOW is the lightest of the bunch. When AAPL gets taken out, or another big over-weight member of the Nasdaq and SP500, like today, they will show wide divergence. In fact the recent gyrations either suggests a major redistribution or a possible topping pattern.

      There is no way the DOW can hold up the other indices, if that is what you are thinking.

  • Dennis Neuman September 11, 2013, 2:05 pm

    Hi Rick,

    I was wondering how long it would take to get out of the deflation when we hit there. Do you imagine our politicians would be able to manuveur the country out of the deflationary forces? Seems like Obama has taken pretty much decent steps to prolong the coming of the crash.

    I certainly enjoy reading your daily commentary. You used to publish them daily why do you not publish your invaluable inputs on the market as frequently as you used to before.

    Sincerely,

    Dennis Neuman

    FED New York

    • Rick Ackerman September 13, 2013, 6:10 am

      Emerge from deflation? It took more than two decades and a World War the last time, Dennis.

      As for my daily offering, posing a single question each week allows more in-depth discussion of each topic. The discussions have attracted some deep thinkers to the forum, wouldn’t you say? The new format also gives me more time to concentrate on the tradable forecasts and strategies that subscribers pay me for; to be more active in the Rick’s Picks chat room (aka “Rick’s Saloon & Betting Parlor”), which is geared toward helping subscribers identify and execute trades in real time; to conduct ‘impromptu’ trading sessions and Hidden Pivot demonstrations online more frequently; and to offer small-group tutorial sessions each week to the hundreds of subscribers who have taken the Hidden Pivot Course.

    • mary September 13, 2013, 9:18 am

      The reasons for recovery from deflation taking 20 years were stupid gov’t tricks, such as wage controls (informal), cartelization of industry, massive new regulations, regime uncertainty (see Robert Higgs) etc. WW2 did NOT resolve the problems, it only hid them. Geez, high unemployment? We know, we’ll start a war and draft all the unemployed. Yeah, great for the economy. Recovery occurred with the end of the war due to the rolling back of the total war economy and some of the depression’s stupid gov’t tricks. Today, deflation could be over quickly, but the busybody tyrants in dc will never leave us alone. They are repeating the horrendous errors of hoover/frd. So trying to predict how long recovery will take is a mugs game.

  • BKL September 11, 2013, 11:46 am

    I am shocked, that such a clever crew as this, has overlooked the number one key to avoiding ruin; Take care of your health! You should be able to walk ten miles in less than three hours, and be able to forget that you did so later the same day. If you forget that you did so immediately, then you will probably just continue walking until you get to a river.

    Seriously folks, watch what you eat, especially there, in the land of the free and the home of healthcare hell.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 1:04 pm

      Great point BKL. Really good actually. Health above all matters in good times or bad. I am working on it. Other than that about all I did was get out of debt and start saving seriously on the assumption a period of deflation is probably inevitable. I just have no idea when that day is coming but it just seems prudent to make the most of whatever time we are blessed with to put something away for whatever rainy day arises. If we do see a surge in inflation I guess I will have to modify my position but for now its all about killing off the credit infestation most of us have been cursed with in the past and getting stoked up for a day when real money matters again.

  • Scott September 10, 2013, 9:11 pm

    I am an Alex Jones listener, Max Keiser, Peter Schiff, etc. and I am definitely concerned. We are living in interesting times and I think the days of wine and roses in the US are coming to an end. The big questions for me are when and how bad. Will the majority come out of their trance or is it too late. There are preparations a person can make and there’s plenty of good info on the net. I would highly recommend you do that.

    • Dave September 11, 2013, 3:48 pm

      If you remember, those same people on the net told us in 2007 to buy canned goods and long term dried food packs to supply the underground bunker we should have planned on living in because the then upcoming economic disaster would leave us in the next Great Depression, homeless, tent cities, etc. This fringe doomsday gold bug physical hoarding crowd, predicting then gold w/b $2000++/oz by now, while correct in calling for the economic crisis, hasn’t been as accurate in calling its ramifications. The food rations have now expired and gold hasn’t yet taken off. While I recently returned a 6 year old ION turntable to Costco for a full refund thanks to their open return policy, they won’t take back expired food items, so if I buy one of their Emergency Food, Water, Fuel packages, the food has 25 year shelf life, I want to make sure I can return it for a full refund before it expires. Are we at least within 25 years of needing these items? Added benefit, using a Costco Amex card gets you a 2-3% cash rebate!

      http://www.costco.com/all-emergency-food.html

  • John Jay September 10, 2013, 3:42 pm

    Mario,
    The DC Gang has been looting this country for so long of it’s wealth and freedoms with no consequences that they have been getting sloppy lately.
    The excuses for their crimes are becoming less plausible.
    Reading the comments sections on various news websites I see more and more outrage directed at the Government in general, and guys like the smirking psychopath John McCain in particular.

    It has gotten so bad that even people who have been lost in the Matrix their whole lives are beginning to see through that hologram at long last.
    Maybe TPTB have enough confidence in the Police State they have created that they are prepared to tell us their true plans for this country.
    And tell us to shut up and just starve to death in the gutter.

    And I am sure their enforcers are willing and able to slaughter any demonstrators when the time comes.
    The Civil War is proof positive that we will kill each other wholesale without mercy, pity or regret.
    Maybe if the House finally says “NO” to the Neocons latest war crime plans we will make a little progress to turn things around.
    But I doubt it.

    • mario cavolo September 11, 2013, 12:51 pm

      Yep, something I just noticed, doing my own amateur trading analysis. If you look on the daily/weekly chart of the indexes since 7/25/2012 you can clearly see the well spaced pivot bottoms after each of which there was a strong plus/minus 100pt runs in the S&P, assuming the previous high of 1702 is handily exceeded, its looking like 1750 is on the radar and soon enough….

      With the backdrop of improving data and Syrian fading away, , the FED not freaking everyone out at the September meeting, not much to stop it…

      Hmm…Cheers, Mario

  • mario cavolo September 10, 2013, 3:36 pm

    Hi Rick, I just watched DaBoyz pull their attempt at the ultimate manipulation….2 minutes before the open the Dow futures shot up short squeeze style 35 points while the S&P and Nasdaq didn’t budge…Cheeky Bastards!…I shorted it at the top and am smiling…Cheers, Mario

    • mario cavolo September 11, 2013, 6:29 am

      well it seems a name change on the DOW’s list prompted its solo jubilation, any excuse will do…M

  • mario cavolo September 10, 2013, 6:02 am

    from Marketwatch…”The Russian proposal threatened to further erode support for military action, and lawmakers seized on it to avoid a vote that even in the Democratic-controlled Senate was appearing in doubt, a trend likely detected by White House officials.”

    Notice the language?…a good thing is being portrayed as a ” threat”, unbelievably twisted, as if people in our govt and media don’t want to come out and say “we would delighted if that can happen, there is nothing we want more than to avoid the additional horrible deaths of citizens and soldiers and costs of war to our already strained budget than to enthusiastically encourage Putin’s phone call to Assad.”

    Cheers, Mario

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 10, 2013, 7:12 am

      Perhaps there will be a surprise Olive branch extended on September 11th this year in the evolving Syrian drama. I am wondering if both Russia and the US have examined the situation closely and decided it was far too unpredictable and risky for both of them. Removing all the gas and nerve agents would be seen as a first step and success though and a good reason for all to step back from the rhetoric of war. While they are at it Putin might might also agree to stop shipping Katyushas into the region which almost invariably land on Israel during every serious conflict. The Russian arming of terrorist groups and unstable Mid-East Governments against the interests and allies of the US has been going on for decades. A solution is long overdue to a very long running proxy war between East and West that pits armed groups and countries against one another in that hot region of the world. Putin might also back down on the sales of the new long range and tactical missile systems to Assad while he is at it. Obviously these new weapons are not seen as just a threat to Israel but stand as direct provocation for America whose interests are now being threatened by the arrogance of the Russian president who has been flexing his muscles in the region against the wishes of the global community who would prefer peaceful outcomes to another ugly war. Perhaps more can be achieved in the Syrian conflict by closing the Boshorus than pinpoint bombing of weapons and chemicals dumps in Syria. Just a thought, why indeed are we always acting to destroy these weapons after the fact when the solution is to stop them from entering in the first place? Any pact to a peaceful outcome must therefore include some assurances from Russia’s Putin that there will be an end to the ongoing buildup of increasingly sophisticated weaponry that tend to end up in the hands of unpredictable ME elements. So lets have that Olive branch and start cleaning up the mess that has been made over there. If the US will stand down then the face saving gesture would be an end to the vocal belligerance coming from Russia and an end to the supply of war making equipment that is being used by regional extremists and cornered dictators to terrorize ordinary Syrian citizens. What say you Mr Putin?

    • mary September 11, 2013, 12:12 am

      Cam, are you ignoring all the heinous crimes of the USG/Israel??? “Obviously these new weapons are not seen as just a threat to Israel [who’s got nukes] but stand as direct provocation for America whose interests are now being threatened by the arrogance of the Russian president …” Oh, please, you sound like the msm neocons. The USG has no legit “interests” anywhere other than within our borders, and then 95% of what it does is immoral and illegit any way. The MIC is the root of our problems.

    • Buster September 11, 2013, 3:14 am

      Spot on, Mario! The motives of the occupying regime of psychopaths are often revealed in their words, but not always. ‘Doublespeak’ is often employed, too.
      Cam, you need to do some serious homework, as you are so clearly off the mark that I don’t know where to start. I think, though, seeing as you asked, you should start by actually listening to what Putin & his comrades actually do say, for what words can be worth, admittedly. It might, however, surprise you. Far be it for me to side with anyone in the games men play, & I’m not naive to believe that we can all hold hands & sing Hallelujah together, but those bad Russians are sounding more like the adults in this playground brawl, which by all evidence appears to be directed by our undemocratic & unrepresentative Military Industrial Corporatist dictators. This is attested to by many, many of our own people at all levels, so it’s not some foreign propaganda I’m citing here.
      Although the machiavellian dealings can be justified in the grand scheme of things, the motives of our occupying regimes seem to be dishonorable to their core, with money & power their only Gods, or worse.
      Putin addressed European leaders recently saying that a balance of power, not the concentrated power sought by some elements operating in the West, noting their use fraudulent finance no less!, was the best way of maintaining peace & prosperity for all countries. Another Russian minister lamented that fascist elements within the West were intent on global takeover. A recent interview on UK news had a Russian spokesman & UK representative. Let me say that while the Russian was clearly a very straight talking guy, the UK’s could very well have been Satan’s own, as the deceit was clearly evident to anyone without the blinkers still on.
      At this stage, I think it fair to say that the enemy is firstly within, as even those among our own leaders confirm. Maybe by taking this cancer out from our own eyes we could start showing the rest of the world what they should be doing.

    • Buster September 11, 2013, 3:41 am

      “Ideologies are dangerous, because they are immune to facts. Now that the United States is no longer governed by the US Constitution, but by a crazed ideology that has given rise to a domestic police state more complete than that of Communist East Germany and to a warfare state that attacks sovereign countries based on nothing but manufactured lies, we are left with the irony that Russia and China are viewed as constraints on Washington’s ability to inflict evil, death, and destruction on the world.”-Paul Craig Roberts
      http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

      Well worth a read as an antidote to MSM B/S

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 9:17 am

      What I love about this site is that some of you posters have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and no facts to back your arguments but you keep blithering on criticizing your country and system without regard to the bigger picture. Hezbolla alone has an estimated 30 to 40 thousand rockets point ed at Israel from souther Lebanon at this time. Most of that equipment (missiles and rockets) are Russian-supplied and manufactured. Make no mistake, the dealer knows the purpose before he sells and ships. That is deliberate provocation and a dangerous threat is implied. They are fully prepared to see the whole Mid East in flames as an act of indirect aggression against US allies in the region, so any agreement on chemical weapons should include provisions of disarming terror groups. You have to get your head out of your arse if you are going to understand what is really at play over there. Calling my comments MSM repeats is such a cop out because you have never been there or seen the trouble and have no idea what you are talking about. Just armchair blathering.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 9:23 am

      Mary and Buster……both of you seem to be very smitten by manipulative messages from abroad. Do you really think Putin and Russia are angels? I suggest you both take off the blinkers and ask yourself what country you live in and whose side you are really on.

    • Buster September 11, 2013, 12:35 pm

      A very shallow response, Cam. I’m disappointed in your level of insight & misrepresenting of mine.
      If on any side then put me down as on the side of humanity & planet Earth. I have friends who are from all the ‘sides’ you can imagine & treat them all without bias. Who’s side do you think you are on? Do you feel a need to belong to a ‘side’ & do you believe that it has concern for your wellbeing?
      Also, why do you suggest that the messages come from abroad?
      “Paul Craig Roberts (born April 3, 1939) is an American economist and a columnist for Creators Syndicate. He served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and was noted as a co-founder of Reaganomics.[1] He is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. He has testified before congressional committees on 30 occasions on issues of economic policy.”

      I could have quoted a myriad of other Western voices of reason who are at least more honest than certain others in our government who have sold you, I & the whole of humanity down the river for their own unprincipled gain.
      How can we bemoan injustice if we are equally so corrupted to pick a side in the face of what is right & just.
      That world of ‘sides’, it’s just about finished, ‘and so is its desire’. Anyone who wants a part of it is welcome to take a wide, comfortable seat in it if one can be found, & savour the taste of it before it sours further.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 1:30 pm

      Oh come off that stump Buster and take a look at the situation from a rational perspective. I object strenuously to warmaking in the Middle East and find the appalling buildup of weapons in that couldron of hatred a huge worry. You call yourself a man of the humanity and planet earth. So is it OK that the worst humanitarian crisis in the world is underway in Syria and nobody with guts is willing to stand up to that BS except the President and a few others? Hey, a few million refugees is no big deal for Mother nature I guess and the relentless wasted bombing and resource destruction is just stuff we need to suck up as a few million folks get displaced and threaten to destabilize all the countries in the region as a result. The message is indeed coming from abroad. The popular narrative now is that Putin made Obama back down and made a fool of what some are claiming are bumbling US foreign policy moves and European inaction. You seem to overlook the fact that the WH was working towards a program of disarming groups in the region and that Kerry’s efforts in his meetings with Assad revolved around gaining an agreement whereby Syria would stop shipping Russian arms and missiles to terror groups in Lebanon. Yeah…..everyone forgets that bit when the pictures of Kerry and his wife having dinner with the Assads are published because there is a preference for making hay with politics over actually understanding the tremendous risks that they were trying to head off. Only Russia relented on shipping in the S300 missile systems but it was not long before they put the pressure back on and began sending components. One upmanship and provocation. None of it was necessary. What we need is to demilitarize those groups who are not representing nations but are instead just creating instability with an arms buildup that is not sanctioned by any signatory to any international convention and is not accountable to the UN. Hezbolla is not a country. It does not have a constituency nor is it truly elected in the theaters it operates. Is that too shallow a comment? I suggest you stop buying the propaganda coming from Putin because he and his country have been instrumental in using Syria as a regional tool to frustrate US policy by funnelling weapons through Assad and into the hands of people intent on attacking neighboring countries. This has been going on for decades. You need a longer perspective to appreciate the stakes of this game.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 1:43 pm

      I just reread your post, Buster. I had to confirm for myself your pro-Russia media bias and how you have allowed yourslf to be manipulated by the message. There is no question you have taken sides. It is also clear that the immediacy of the current story has coloured your views and that you don’t have any historical perspective. Have a look at what you wrote for yourself……..

      “…..the motives of our occupying regimes seem to be dishonorable to their core, with money & power their only Gods, or worse. Putin addressed European leaders recently saying that a balance of power, not the concentrated power sought by some elements operating in the West, noting their use fraudulent finance no less!, was the best way of maintaining peace & prosperity for all countries. Another Russian minister lamented that fascist elements within the West were intent on global takeover. A recent interview on UK news had a Russian spokesman & UK representative. Let me say that while the Russian was clearly a very straight talking guy, the UK’s could very well have been Satan’s own, as the deceit was clearly evident to anyone without the blinkers still on. At this stage, I think it fair to say that the enemy is firstly within, as even those among our own leaders confirm”. ~~ Busters comment.

      Sure sounds to me like you are leaning one way and also suggests you have no regard for the suffering of millions of refugees displaced directly and indirectly by the same pack of manipulative liars you have become so fond of.

    • Buster September 11, 2013, 3:07 pm

      It’s good to disagree, Cam.
      I can see where you’re coming from on this, but I believe there are too many things with your views that are incongruous with the big picture of reality that seems all too clear as soon as we get out of the ‘my country, right or wrong’ distortion.
      On the Syrian gas ‘attack’, it appears you really haven’t looked at the evidence as presented by all sides, such as the admittance by certain Syrian rebels that they had accidentally set off the weapons, probably due to not knowing how to handle them properly. Or that Turkish police arrested terrorists in May who had sarin gas. Or that it has been shown that the weapons were supplied by Saudi Arabia’s Prince Bandar. All this from many independent sources & in the 100 page document supplied by Russia openly for further investigation, but Obomba knows Assad was responsible!
      He talks about caring for the 1000 innocents killed by this atrocity yet discounts the 1.1 million Iraqi’s, 90% of them civilians, killed by the very Military Industrial Complex & Bankster bosses he fronts for & that Eisenhower warned us of, including the use of chemical weapons:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre
      ….and depleted Uranium leaving the populace with mass deformities in their offspring since. No propaganda, all right there if you dare to look.
      You clearly haven’t listened to the testimonials of our own war veterans, or past & present political leaders or journalists, many killed by way of ‘friendly fire’ to bring out this information, if you remain in the 20% of the population who still believe our governments are telling the truth anymore.
      Let me let you in on a little secret. Our governments aren’t ‘us’ at all. They’ve been hijacked by psychopaths who only care about themselves. Most of the population are waking up to this clear fact because it grows more obvious by the day to the point that even the lazy or stupid can see it at any number of levels & sources. The only thing that allows this to continue is that some people will fight for them if paid to do so.

      So give me a break & do some proper damned research before throwing the bias card at me, especially since you have already demonstrated that you are.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 11, 2013, 10:45 pm

      How is this for research, Buster. I live over here and get exposed to the raw mood daily. You live in a basement cocoon and don’t know what the hell you are talking about because your informed sources are all running an agenda of their own. What bugs me is guys like you who get all their information from media quote snippets and then think they know it all when they really know squat. How about getting off your high horse and the cusshy sofa and coming over in person? Do that and you have credibility with me. Otherwise, don’t add to the confusion because you are out of your depth.

    • Buster September 12, 2013, 1:56 am

      Cam, having spent much of my adult life working & living around the world & with many nationalities including the Middle East, Africa, the Far East, Eastern & Western Europe, I’ve learned that we’re all as good & as bad as eachother, accepting the various nuances & doctrines that mould our attitudes depending on where we land on this war torn planet, so your presumptuous opinion of me is clearly as narrow & bigoted as it is of the rest of humanity who fall outside your clan. I grew out of my own bigotry around 20 years ago because of my experience with people, though I am still very aware of the barbarity that festers just below the surface. Nothing’s ever black & white, & on these grounds I just won’t be supporting foreign death squad leaders who have posted videos of themselves boastfully butchering & eating body parts of Syrians & beheading Christian priests any more than I will President Assad.
      This black/white, East/West, J/Arab attitude is what has brought us to ruin time & time again, only now the stakes are catastrophic. If our leaders actually had the moral high ground rather than divisive motives they wouldn’t have lost the faith of most of us leaving us vulnerable, as most nations abandon the ship & we’re losing more servicemen to suicide than to enemy fire for God’s sake!
      But you just keep waving that flag Cam!

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 12, 2013, 10:58 am

      Beheadings and eating body parts? Lets just give that drama a rest OK Buster. So maybe you have been around the world but you don’t seem to have learned when you are being manipulated by the media which is a bit surprising. Most well travelled folks are pretty insightful in my experience. All that visual tragedy is just noise meant to sway or confuse. Turn it off and you will be able to think more clearly. Surely you appreciate that the message from the East is no less stage managed than the one we recieve in the West. Everybody is pushing his own agenda and trying to win the minds of the viewing public. Lying and deceit are just the tip of the iceburg. What is bothering me about your posts is that they all make reference to very current media stories and so I can understand that you are amongst those whose minds are being molded by the popular message at the exclusion of the million variables from the past that are actually more important. This is despite your claim to have travelled extensively. Lets say I have my doubts.

    • Buster September 12, 2013, 11:39 am

      Here’s the ‘drama’ as reported by the, actually, pro-Western BBC which you’ve somehow failed to notice in all your more qualified opinion on the subject:
      Face-to-face with Abu Sakkar, Syria’s ‘heart-eating cannibal’
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23190533

      Nothing’s ever plain & simple, is it?
      Having lived for quite some time in Israel whilst coming under fire from terrorists, as well as with Arabs, I think I know first hand the unsolvable situation in the Middle East well enough to have an opinion that’s not ‘out of my depth’, as you patronise, thank you Cam.

    • Cam Fitzgerald September 14, 2013, 1:57 am

      What is your point, Buster? I read the article you linked but cannot glean insight into your mind nor how you can make a decision on anything current based on one bizarre exceptional event. My original post referred to disarming those groups who are illicitly acquiring weapons that are later turned loose on the region. What objection do you have to that? What we are seeing now is just a continuation of a proxy war between the US and Russia. Nothing has changed over the years in that regard except for how the public perceives what is taking place. Really, people used to be more attuned to what was underway there but the insights have been lost in a blizzard of media misinformation and acts of extremism. I can almost guarantee this war situation is not over. Not even close. Now the Russians look to have the upper hand but in time Syria will fail to deliver on promises opening the way for a resumption in hostilities. It is my opinion we need to be involved in reducing the flow of chemicals, missiles and other weapons that keep ending up in the hands of radicals. If that can be done through diplomacy then fantastic. I just don’t see it happening after having read how Putin promises to replace any and all equipment that US bombs destroy. Can you not see the provocation nor the threat to neighboring countries that are not even party to a civil war that is out of control? I am asking you to reconsider your postion on the Russian message. They are manipulating and stage managing just as much as the Western media. Why give their version credibility when they have been so intent on destabilizing the Middle East for so long? Have you just forgotten your history, Camp David and the many US sponsored efforts at finding an accomodation and peace over there?

    • Buster September 14, 2013, 1:25 pm

      Only because you choose not to.
      Do I really need to spell it out to you that it is not the disarming of these rebel groups, but the actual arming of them that is the proposed solution of the West? ….or that fighting alongside them are Taliban affiliated subgroups, themselves a throw off to previous such Western attempts of foreign policy?
      Listen, I’m going to end this conversation here as I think we’ve taken up enough of this thread with this which seems to only be solidifying polarisation of reasoning ability, but if you or anyone else wants to learn even more than I have time or inclination for then here’s a good starting point:
      Syria Civil War: Arming Syrian Rebels Is Machiavellian Genius:
      http://www.policymic.com/articles/50085/syria-civil-war-arming-syrian-rebels-is-machiavellian-genius

      Oh the games men play, hey?

  • John Jay September 10, 2013, 4:41 am

    Work on your trading skills is the best advice I can offer.
    I just do not see any other opportunity to make money where you don’t need a license from the Government, employees to worry about, sales tax collection, liability insurance etc.
    Or many years at Law or Medical school with Student Loans!
    Or receivables!
    And you can trade with 10k or 1o million dollars, overhead is negligible, and you can shut it down and take a day or a month off whenever you feel like it.
    Try that with a major fast food franchise that requires you put up a million bucks to get in business, a gang of pilfering employees, and an increasingly insane general public!
    Not to mention Workman’s Comp., ever increasing utility bills, and armed robbery!

    Make what you can while the markets are still open to trading by us small fry.
    Trading losses are painful, but that is your only worry.
    You can make money and stay off the radar scopes of the legions of greedy government enforcers and ambulance chasing lawyers.
    You never know, that door might slam shut on us at any moment.

    As far as the State of the Nation, it is increasingly grim.
    IBM is stopping paid health insurance for it’s retired employees, they are going to just give you an allowance to purchase your own I believe.
    If manufacturing stages some manner of come back to these shores, the rise of robots means there will not be millions of jobs created here as a result.
    The bankrupt cites are already squaring off in Court about what becomes of insolvent pension/healthcare programs.
    The money is not there, and you can only raise taxes so much before those able to, flee the taxes, and Detroit results in one city after another.
    I read the Mayor of some New Jersey beach town is selling his house because he can’t afford the 30k a year in property taxes!
    The implosion has already begun at the margins of our economy, that is, the old Rust Belt Cities back East,
    and the Welfare Cities of California.
    Pay attention to current events, I think everyone on this forum is smart enough to recognize Cook Books like NAFTA, TARP, Immigration Reform etc. for what they really are.
    Cook Books for you and I!
    Pay close attention my friends!

    • mario cavolo September 10, 2013, 6:14 am

      You make the right point about trading JJ, I’ve always the same way and that’s why I stay at it to keep getting better at it. The process/journey of figuring out what you’re doing wrong and not steadily making a profit is not so easily explained as to say “follow a set of rules and you will be profitable”…that’s BS and if it wasn’t, everyone and their mother would be in on it and telling their boss to shove it. In the real world, it doesn’t work that way.

      I’ll tell you that in the past I’ve faced typical unexpected trading volatility, reversals of positions which in the past every time wiped out my meager account balance and I was done.

      This time around, those gyrations were the same rollercoaster but my account is still up. THAT result is significant and worth noticing what I’m doing and feeling that is different and frankly I can’t put my finger on it except to say that its accumulated wisdom and no matter anyone tries to say, you can’t learn that other than by doing it, mmm, “baptism by fire”, eh? 🙂

      Cheers, Mario

  • mava September 9, 2013, 10:38 pm

    No, you can’t get out of it unless you either leave for a foreign country or survive years of civil war ahead of us.

    “Civil war? Wow! You one of those “preppers”, aren’t you?” you’d ask me. No, I am not. I recommend against all prepping, because the true wisdom is never having to raise the sword.

    For people like RA, who is asking about his capital and his family, my advice would be the best if he takes it, – leave asap. Convert most holdings to gold and silver. Have nothing or almost nothing that you’d have to declare or unable to hide/move.

    Because what is coming is the event where millions will have to die, and they will make it nasty for everyone. Why? OK. Imagine that you had a rich and invisible friend helping you for years. Paying your bills, gifting you vehicles, houses, sometimes just dropping cash on you. What would your family be like today? Right, many more children! Because you could. And if now that friend was suddenly gone? Could you feed all of those children and pay all of those bills if you work hard enough? Not likely. Many of them would have to die, because there is just no way for you to support them all.

    This is how you know that millions will die in the coming crash. An entire century of living on the sweat of other countries is about to end. A lot had been built what should have never been built, and a lot of people were born that would have never been born.

    Do not confuse US with India, – they know how to live on entirely different level of subsistence, which many here won’t have enough time to learn.

    This crisis is about US dollar ending. And with it, the opportunity to suck purchasing power from almost the entire world. It didn’t have to end, interestingly. The people around the world are so perfectly dumb enough that the US could continue to use it’s dollar for another century or more. But, of course, the people in charge had to screw it up by getting just too power hungry. They overloaded the system and look – it is all coming unglued, the greatest system of theft ever is getting undone, – and all because we have gotten so full, that we have allowed the stupid to take the reigns.

    I think this collapse will be the funniest thing ever happening to the most grandiose of human farms in all of history.

    The main reason you cannot survive other than with gold or silver is that you should forget the current laws. As soon as shit will hit the fans, the laws will start to change. What was securely your property will no longer be considered so, and you will see everything being taken away from you. The leaders will come and go fast, just like petards in the independence day bloodbath firework show, but the theft and murder they will all try to instill will be all the same. The dying, mad and hungry crows will underwrite it all.

    What do you think the whores will do to survive? I here speak of whores such as Krugman, not the working girls on the street. They eek out their bread now by skillfully lying in favor of the current power. They will do the same after the crash! They will explain to the hungry and bloodthirsty crowds that it was you and others like you that were at fault for it all.

    Any scheme that you think will leverage the power of market for you betting for the right outcomes now, will bring you blood all the same and for the same reason – the crowds will not tolerate you being right.

    Everyone will be stripped and searched and relieved of any property. It is not possible to say which country will remain afloat and at least not become involved in blood-fest. All that we can do is be mobile and nimble and above all UNKNOWN. So, quit you Facebook if you haven’t figured out its purpose yet. Because, let me tell you, when they get a hold of me and they put my fingers in a vice, I don’t know, I might just give it all up.

    At least rejoice that not everyone is born lucky enough to be a witness to the biggest bloodbath ever.

    • Craig September 10, 2013, 3:27 am

      You just need to run to one of the countries that are not under the control of the globalists, because any other country will round you up and you be sent straight to a FEMA camp for your own safety, once anything major happens. So you can move to Iran, Syria, North Korea, Burma, Egypt (for now, tried to give it to al quada), Tunisia (oops they got that one, gave it to al quada), Libya (oops they got that one, gave it to al quada), Mali (oops France banning the crap out it), Somolia or Russia and Russian block countries (they will round you up to, but keep you somewhere cool in Siberia)…..any of those sound good? Oh yeah we do have aircraft carriers anchored outside most of them. Need to stay here in USA, the queens lands (Aulstralia, England, Canada, New Zealand) are not safe either…but they are already disarmed due to fake mass shootings of children 20 years ago….they follow the same script over an over people…they have the USA government 100% under control…not the people, well not 10-30% we are the last hope of resistance to the inbreed tyrants. Once the USA people ie “the south” fall in…the world is doomed. Long live Texas as that will be the last stand….kinda fitting. Texas will defeat them, form it’s own country and be the center of freedom and capitalism along with Iceland…don’t hear much about them do you???? They kicked the Bankers out and started arresting them…no longer in the news….interesting how that news skipped the news cycle.

    • mava September 10, 2013, 4:14 pm

      Craig,

      I don’t really agree with your answer, mainly because I do not believe in any kind of international conspiracy to take down the beacon of freedom, the USA.

      I operate under my own observation / theory that the USA had a very good thing going but could not contain it’s own desires and as a result overloaded the system and will now experience the disappearance of the system that fed it for a century. I believe the universal suffrage is one of the causes, not Bilderbergs.

      I also don’t believe in arresting bankers, – I believe in NOT bailing them out ever, just like I believe in NO welfare for the poor. The people of the USA are super greedy without being conscious about it, which also makes them giving consciously.

      Anything that comes next will have a communitarian character, therefore massive deaths will follow. People’s stupidity resulting in giving the authorities powers that allowed them to ignore private property and the law (as it properly understood), is the cause today and it has been historically.

      Don’t even know what you call “globalists”. Most of the “international” institutions like world bank and UN are simply US proxies. 90% of the world is controlled by the US. All that is about to go away and the resulting time of regrouping is what I aim to survive by being mobile and nimble and having all my resources small/mobile/hidden.

      Texas? You try that. There are so many hot heads in Texas and more will return from overseas when US is no longer able to pay to the legions, and none of them knows anything but the propaganda and communism, even if they speak of independence and freedom – they will destroy Texas.

      The main mistake in your judgment (I think, if you allow) is that you see an American as a victim, and not a main villain self-inflicting the mortal wound.

      I just hope that the Texan call to “make the rest of the world a parking lot” would come too late relative to an ability to execute it.

    • Craig September 10, 2013, 5:32 pm

      Mava,

      You read into what I said about Texas too deep. You must a liberal who thinks every conservative or libertarian is a war mongering neocon (which is just the controlled opposition to the left which are the true war mongers).

      I implied Texas defend itself and win. Winning DOES not mean nuking the rest of the earth…where do people get this stuff???!?!

      This is how Texas will win and why. The welfare people will die immediately through starvation and not being able to help themselves. That will thin the herd in Texas (and everyother state) of the leech class. The good ole boy red necks will be cannon fodder to the US/UN troops establishing a base of resistance, many will die. Texas will not win many battles, but the people will continue to fight until the occupiers are gone. The military is waking up faster then the sheeple that they are just pawns and a security force for foreign interests. If you can’t see that yourself then you never will, it’s too obvious. A good part of the military is from Texas also and will go back home once things get out of control.

      The German people were victims too…victims to the same agenda. They go after good people that trust their leaders and follow orders. They have also been drugging use down and poisoning us through the food and water and the minute by minute bombardment of media brainwashing people to think like you for generations. And it’s getting worse, don’t believe me, look up all the 666, all seeing eye, pyramid with an eye garbage in all the logos, the us currency, on stage, at clubs, on album covers and in music videos of beyonce, jayz, Keisha, lady gaga, kayne west etc. You have kids? They are being brainwashed with this stuff every minute. Go look for yourself.

      The bankers are just the kingpins of the ruling elites. Our and pretty much all te politicians are paidoff/black mailed pawns. You think Nancy Polosi is smart enough to control the World through military and propaganda worldwide…the lady can barely read her que cards she is given. Feinstein used to finish Teddy Kennedys sentences from across the room as he stumbled through his lines he was given.

      What seem to not be able to grasp is that the world globalist have duke alll the wealth out of the US for a 100 years and have used the USA as the “proxy” to control the governments throughout the world. You don’t see that they are done with the USA we have outlived our usefulness to them, this great collapse is just a changing of the guard. And they are throwing the old guard out (the USA), but this will take time still to replace the dollar and the military might. They have already moved all the manufacturing overseas.

    • mava September 10, 2013, 9:19 pm

      Am I a Liberal, Craig? You tell me.

      “I also don’t believe in arresting bankers, – I believe in NOT bailing them out ever, just like I believe in NO welfare for the poor.”

      What was the last time you’ve heard a liberal not believing in welfare for the poor?

  • Craig September 9, 2013, 8:25 pm

    Avoiding ruin is easy, it would end tomorrow if 30-40% of the sheep did one thing, just one thing. Expose the trigger for all of this…..drum roll….investigate 911 (building 7 is the smoking gun)….why 911 you ask? Well that’s the big event thy triggered everything, everything? Yes everything, there was some prepping before but it would not have gone anywhere without 911.

    1). Started the US foothold in the ground in the middle east and Africa to “fight terrorism”
    2). Scared us into allowing the FED to do whatever it took to get us out of the financial abyss caused by “the attack” which lead to the mortgage crisis which lead to the planned banker bailout etc. How did the come up with the bailout amount “we just wanted a very large scary number”
    3). Justified the build up of the military.
    4). Justified the build up of the police state.
    5) Justified use of spying on citizens illegally.
    6). Demonized Bush (rightfully) for illegal invasions, to not only bring in the Big Lefty Tyrant (Obama) and set the precedent to invade whoever we (the bankers using the US as cannon fodder), the hate for the wars was just enough for a lefty landslide to bring us obamacare and gun control (still unsuccessful).
    7). Get everyone looking for terrorists under their beds to unite ageist the weird looking brown people with beards.
    8). Change the terrorists from Muslims (only guilty of work place violence) to the TEA Party and returning Vets.(still working on this script). Although they are training right now and police are receiving grants to buy tanks, guns, armor etc to take on violent Tea Party people (yes it actually says that in the grants).
    9). Monopolize industries further from the downturn.
    10). Cause unemployment for the youth so they only have 3 choices, join the military, riot and commit crimes.
    11). Have it all happen on time to kill off the baby boomers (obamacare, Medicare bankrupt, soc security bankrupt) Time magazine “the case for killing granny”
    12). Call the military the terrorist just in time for the drones to take over (@2018) 60,000 drones will be built one for every 5 sq miles. (more convenient math).
    13) put in Homeland security designed after the east German Stasi and the actually paid Marcus Wolf (former Stasi XO) to design it. Then have the police report to them and do as they direct. Non bonded untrained people with zero experience telling the police what to do.
    14). Move production overseas via the crisis.
    15). Increase opium production out of a-stan.
    16) Encircle Iran (outside of banking system)
    17). Encircle Russia (get them nervous enough to initiate first strike against US).
    18). Commit atrocities by the US military around the globe and report it in every paper. Except in the US to give the US the label ad bully to further justify #17.

    So you have 2 choices find a cave and buy food water ammo and learn how to survive or investigate 911 and building 7 for yourself an get as many people as possible awake in the next two months about the first big domino that fell. Suggested utube films:
    “Loose change, final cut”
    “invisible empire”
    “Obama deception”
    “fall of the republic”

    Rick “I am sure there is a good explanation for it (building 7)”. Yes there is, the trigger to all the events that has happened since and will happen. It all ends when enough people wake up and understand how far they will go to destroy America within…we are running out of time.

    • Buster September 10, 2013, 12:34 am

      Sadly, you’re probably about right on all these points, Craig.

      Whistleblowers reveal ‘Operation Gladio’, false flag terrorism to raise government powers:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vka7Da6e9LY#t=128

    • mava September 10, 2013, 1:59 am

      I don’t like #12.

      The area of US is 3.8 million sq miles. Divided by 60,000 drones it leaves 63 square miles for each drone to patrol. Not 5 as stated.

    • Craig September 10, 2013, 3:59 am

      Sorry every 50 sq miles or one for every 5,000 people so basically one patrolling every small town, most likely stationed at the small town detention/transport center (ie Walmart). There is more then 60k drones being built for USA but only 30,000 will be armed….remember the current cover story for them and the FEMA camps…it’s for the illegals….ha ha ha sure they are…the ones for “the border” are over Houston,..not near the border…..

    • Buster September 10, 2013, 8:32 pm

      Who needs forced vaccination when money does the job?
      UK hospital funding to be dependant on staff getting vaccinated:
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24033871

      Just take the medication & go back to sleep. You know we have your best interests at heart!

  • Marc September 9, 2013, 5:19 pm

    I’ve spent slightly more than a decade working under the view that we are heading for a major economic dislocation (I expect a deflationary depression, but a hyperinflationary event wouldn’t really change my planning). I think it is certainly possible, if not probable, that it will result in food and fuel shortages, utility disruptions, and civil unrest and rioting. Major financial losses across asset classes are a given, and a significant war would not be unexpected.

    If I had no other considerations, I would have moved my family to a farm in a more rural setting, possibly in another country. However, various realities kept me living in a very conservative outer suburb of Houston, an area that I feel is considerably more secure than most suburban settings. Despite forgoing the idea of a farm, I’ve worked hard at making us as self-sufficient as possible: wood-fueled cooking and heating capabilities; rain catchment water with off-grid purification; a large garden fertilized solely from our own composted wastes; rabbits and fish (the only feasible livestock in our residential neighborhood); over a year’s worth of vacuum-packed dehydrated foods; and several appropriate firearms with a sizeable stockpile of ammunition and a concealed carry permit.

    Although my wife is not as convinced as I am that financial ruin lies ahead, she has been okay with my preparations. Beyond the matters of everyday living I described above, we’ve kept our assets is physical cash and bullion, much of which is held outside of the U.S. and outside of the banking system. We have no debt other than a small outstanding mortgage which we could pay off tomorrow if we chose to, and we withdrew much of our 401(k) and IRA money just to get it outside of government-sponsored accounts. We will probably withdraw the rest this year. I also obtained Canadian citizenship for myself and my kids so we would have a practical fallback if the U.S. ever came under a truly totalitarian regime (we’re not there yet, but many of the necessary apparatuses are in place).

    If the worst does not transpire, my family will continue to live a perfectly normal middleclass life. If things do go to Hell, I feel that we’re as well-prepared as possible without going to the extreme of living on a remote farm with an underground bunker. Not that I think people who do go all-out prepper are crazy — I just don’t feel that I need to go quite that far.

    • Jason S September 9, 2013, 11:50 pm

      Marc, how were you able to get Canadian citizenship?

    • mario cavolo September 10, 2013, 1:42 am

      Thanks a lot for sharing Marc, thoughtful and wise.
      Cheers, Mario

    • Marc September 10, 2013, 4:03 pm

      Jason – My parents (second- and third-generation Americans) were living in Canada for a year while my dad did his residency there, so I happened to be born there. I was a natural born U.S. citizen by virtue of my parents, and I never had any interest in pursuing dual Canadian citizenship until I became concerned with a looming global economic catastrophe. At that point I applied to find out if I did indeed qualify (it appeared that I would, but I wanted to make it official). Once I was approved and issued a Canadian citizenship ID card, my kids became automatically eligible, as well. My wife is not, although she would be able to move with us to Canada if it ever came to that.

  • Lou September 9, 2013, 12:42 pm

    People,
    We have nothing to consider other than God Himself. This is a world gone mad. No one survives this type of end game when the G-20 gets together and summons the wizardry of technology to collect taxes. This is the most intrusive, warped and predictable human trait those in power always revert to. Check history…then pray for yourself plus your family and look forward to the peace and tranquility that HE will take care of you because all your own financial machinations do not stand a chance. Who will save us when all our freedoms are being taken away? Hide gold under a rock? Put money under a mattress or in an oversees account? A 401K? Really? Please!
    It’s a pipe dream! Live life! DO IT NOW AND DO NOT STOP. Do whatever you can for your parents and your children and just be there for them. If you don’t have parents or children stop the BS when it’s all about yourself. You can only take your good works with you into the next life and this is what we have to look forward to.
    I appreciate all the advice but it is simply too late…we are all trapped. I am not the creepy dooms day type!
    Rick has been right the whole time. It’s the deflationary death spiral not just U.S. but every single country on the earth.
    At least this one fact is true so blindingly true that I now firmly believe—it simply because it is here and it’s much, much, much worse than hyper inflation!!!

    • Buster September 10, 2013, 11:19 am

      These days it’s a hard sell, Lou, not least due to ‘His’ PR campaign having been run by the very psychopaths who have been running everything else, no doubt!
      Though technically an agnostic, & certainly more than a little doubtful of organised religion to say the least, I am still aware of the possibility that God really may be very great indeed.
      In line with this weeks question on dealing with the intolerable mess we are in, the following advice may well be worth taking note of:
      https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1526-value-of-waiting-on-jehovah-the

      With clear evidence of very real Satanic influences at work behind the scenes, which itself suggests that there is something much deeper going on, ‘God’ is an ‘external solution’ that I certainly take seriously. In fact, it would make a lot of things make sense.
      I don’t believe, but I certainly hope.

    • BDTR September 12, 2013, 4:17 pm

      Insightful posts, Buster.

      It’s this quality of intelligent, in-context discussion that draws me here. In concert with the breadth of pragmatic analysis and, critically, ethical appeal, Rick successfully attracts and maintains a unique spectrum of thought and personality. This is a unique forum.

      Still, there’s simply too much that we miss despite conscientious efforts to build and maintain broad existential perspective that’s more than the refined guesswork of belief. Systems work until they don’t in consensus based reality. Such is the constant nature of flux.

      It’s a human reality of perceptual betrayal extending from our presumable exacting views on quantum physics to the divisive politics of institutionally built mathematical models of cosmology. It’s a wonder, really, given the tenuous nature of what we perceive, measure and accept as reality, that we manage as well as we do. Reflections on it from the likes Einstein and Planck bear that out all too well.

      And when you dig deep into the historic myths of civilization extending back nine or so millennia to early Sumer, and identify its remnant occult influence on the power structures that ensue to this day, suddenly the lid on ‘modern reality’ disintegrates like the illusion that it is. A tenuous perceptual construct.

      So, good god, what the hell has this to do with market behavior relevance, Rick may be asking himself? Well, the very nominal basis of HP is consistent with occult use of powerful mathematical behaviors.

      The structure of human civilization is predicated and dominated by the employment of ‘hidden’ projections and relationships of geometry. It’s history is there for anyone to examine and witness. You’re just not encouraged in that direction by conventional education unless you’re guided by personal inquisitiveness, or Masonic affiliation. The pressing forces of concentrated political and economic control are the product of devotion to a numbers game. A game that purposefully and eventually overrides all moral and humane considerations for achieving the absolute end of individual options of resistance to it.

      A sort of insidious usurping harvest of all individual human freedom that serves a pyramidical hierarchy topped by the all-seeing maestro of manipulation and deception. The great one that all tyranny emulates. The ultimate self-centeredness. The epitome of evil. The Illuminati lives.

      Maybe Rick knows that his HP applied to sparing the ‘little guy’ from tyrannical market forces, however destined for eventual utter assimilation, is a holy war of resistance, of sorts, if only in obstructing its fait accompli just bit more distantly.

      Meanwhile, truth lies within every pitiful one of us.

    • Buster September 14, 2013, 4:06 pm

      That’s really some endorsement, BDTR!

      “The pressing forces of concentrated political and economic control are the product of devotion to a numbers game. A game that purposefully and eventually overrides all moral and humane considerations for achieving the absolute end of individual options of resistance to it.”
      – well put.
      As Neo quickly realized, “The problem is choice”, & with the rapid developments which will eliminate it entirely, together with many other things now being observed, I understand the logical conclusion that the storyline is fast approaching it’s ultimate endgame.
      I don’t proclaim to know with certainty what that is but I am well aware of it’s significance on the grandest scale in human historical terms.
      Personally I don’t think that much is chance anymore.

  • mario cavolo September 9, 2013, 7:19 am

    Hi,

    As far as jobs go, if a person has already fallen into the abyss of the bottom 100 million struggling Americans with low-paying can’t make ends meet jobs and bank accounts, then one can only ponder how to possibly get out that situation.

    The only and reasonable idea I can think if that you must assess your interests, strengths and resrouces, and figure out how to start your own business on the side as an entrepreneur. The quickest way is to get into sales with some marketing company of products you like or services you can offer. ( I don’t like MLM marketing companies, but some of them are in fact well run and that “may” work well for this purpose, its very easy to become a distributor and the good ones offer lots of free training on how to build a business)

    Even just in the simple, self-employed situation where you register a trade name with your state and open a business checking account, you already have gained many tax-related and other benefits.

    Hoping and praying and pissing and moaning won’t extricate you, you’ve got to make a plan, any reasonable plan and act now to move forward. Only then will the next steps reveal themselves and you get more of a sense of what to do next. If you’re going to do this, just keep consistently making your efforts and plans to move forward.

    I can’t tell you how many goals and plans I’ve made over 30 years as an entrepreneur, how many didn’t turn out as planned/hoped, but each step moved me closer and closer and I gained value/experience in some way which is now valuable to me, and in the end you have realized the meaning of the journey is part of what you’re doing. Just make a reasonable plan and move it forward each week in some way.

    Cheers, Mario

  • mario cavolo September 9, 2013, 7:08 am

    Hi,

    For those who know me well here, my answer is far too obvious as I am now in my 13th year living overseas in China.

    From this idea, a person can start to consider how to “internationalize” their life, their assets, their ability to earn money, etc. Even in smaller steps, not necessarily completely moving overseas lock, stock & barrel.

    There are many approaches to this, many benefits and added freedoms and flexibility, yet also many frustrations too.

    Cheers, Mario

  • Troll September 9, 2013, 4:49 am

    Is there no hope that the manufacturing sector will once again return to America, as workers in China and India seek a bigger slice of the pie? The money trail has a funny way of changing people’s minds.

    • mario cavolo September 9, 2013, 7:04 am

      Hi Troll, yes hope does exist with significant measurable results, making it real, not just hope, in China’s growing appetite for imports, with the U.S finally getting their act together in this area; U.S. exports to China at record levels and continuing to rise. Too bad they have let politics get in the way as countries like Germany, Japan and many others are far ahead of the U.S. in the amount of goods they export to China. And yes, the more exported goods, obviously creates more business and jobs in the U.S.

      Cheers, Mario

    • Buster September 9, 2013, 10:35 am

      With all due respect to those who hope for a good outcome, I look at things in a broader perspective, & honestly, if I secured a job tomorrow that paid me a million a week I would be no more optimistic of our future other than from a limited personal level. The problems really are quite a bit more difficult to solve than with more jobs & more money.
      Oh that people could care more for truth & justice than jobs & money would give me more hope, but sadly no….Or take note of a world being poisoned beyond repair rather than weigh progress by way of their financial success….or judge our own regime righteous so long as the others are destroyed. Maybe God pits the corrupted against one another to teach us of our barbarity, & lets us put our faith in the hopeless to reveal our delusions & lack of good judgement??
      My burden is to see things very deeply & in a broad perspective without much bias in favor or against anyone, while accepting that we are all much a product of where we land in life, & the heart is a desperate thing that blinds us to the bigger picture. What chance do we really have of understanding, especially since truth is deliberately hidden & the fear for our lives & our families clouds our view. We can only see as best we can, & hypothesize what is transpiring even from the unnaturally grand view that modern man now has access to.
      There are those who warn of dire consequences in all of the spheres that make up our modern world & there are many doctrines & philosophies explaining why things are so. Everything from aliens to apocalyptic prognosis & sun cycles. One even describes how Biblically our end transpires over a 7 year sabbath cycle with all manner of consequences transpiring based on our failures of judgement & misplaced faith & power. It’s a dire interpretation to say the least, & I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about, so there’s no need to dump everything on the market in expectation of it just prior to the next sabbath cycle!
      Just one thing concerns me though. Why is every major market crash happening just at such a time going back for decades, & increasingly so? Maybe I should have added this to last weeks question page, & maybe there really is a bigger picture to be aware of??

  • Buster September 9, 2013, 3:23 am

    A legitimate system aligns itself with the natural forces, so needs little effort to maintain. An illegitimate one goes against the natural flow & requires ever more force to keep in place. Always be suspicious of things that rely on force, as they are likely fundamentally flawed & doom those effected to suffering of it’s inevitable failure. The problems we are increasingly facing are the inevitable results of an ideology that imposes itself on much of the world under many false guises such as democracy, the free market, patriotism or even socialism sometimes. It is really just a system of wealth reallocation run by various factions & can be loosely described as Corporate Fascism built on debt. The methods & structure are well enough described here previously, but the fundamental outcome is simply the concentration of wealth at the top of the pyramid to the detriment of overall & sustainable progress. We’re now seeing the winners trying to cement their illegitimate gains through force, though in order for this part of the plan to succeed they absolutely must achieve a global control. Though there is still much resistance to work through, the trend is very much in play.
    Some may argue that things are fine or will be- given enough time, but their narrow perspective fails to see the whole picture, usually caused by a selfish view of life. However, all that is happening has been tried before & has never ended well for the lands which house it’s instigators, being the cause of much internal social struggle & strife, coupled with an increasing number external wars. The long history is a bloody one.
    This time around it appears the folks at the top are really going for broke, in more ways than one, & it looks very likely that, failing some external solution, we’re all going to go down with the ship one way or another.
    I lean toward the feelings of most who have looked deep & honestly enough at the lay of the lands & let the rest argue the toss on every point that’s really not that difficult to see if we simply step outside of our personal perspective for a moment.
    In any business deal both parties should be getting something of value. Our world is run on a spirit of creating a winner & a loser, which is not good business. To seal this disgusting attitude the winners simply seek to kill the loser who protests the deal. I’ve seen enough ‘good people’ twist their reasoning when personal gain comes into it to recognise the disease that is leading us to ruin.
    At this stage in the game there seems not much to say apart from to appreciate the valiant efforts of all those who have tried to do something, anything, to turn things around in whatever way possible. I think Rick has tried to help people fight the financial battle beyond the call of his own personal gain, as shown in all the free help he’s given out in his touts & classes. Ultimately though, with the increasingly devious machinations of the financial system there’s only so much that can be done. Though we are all quick to blame politicians for everything, there are some trying to change the system from within government, just as there are lawyers fighting the likes of Monsanto, & those in the military taking a stand against the crimes of that sphere.
    In a world with so much to find fault with & so many people that anger or sadden us due to their ‘me, myself, I & mine’ attitude, it’s heartening to know that when the SHTF there are many who still show that humanity’s worth something. I sincerely hope that there is a way of escape for those who have the empathy to see outside of ‘ourselves’. Despite the naysayers, it appears an increasing number of people are looking for a solution as things get progressively more dire. For those not yet aware, I say long may they evade it! But alas, the fruits of this corruption are too all encompassing for such ‘ignorance is bliss’ to last.
    In conclusion, I still hope for an escape route to reveal itself in time, but presently see no way out of the complex web that entangles the planet, not gold, guns or any of the gods of this world.
    It may well be a hopeless situation we face, but whatever comes I plan to live every day by the highest principles that I can muster in spite of it, even if it’s just making sure a few are sitting comfortably as the Titanic goes down with too few lifeboats!

  • mary September 9, 2013, 12:25 am

    This is the $64k question, isn’t it? I have been thrashing around for YEARS for an answer and something tells me I’ll never find it. One path we’re on is following Daniel Amerman’s analysis: have income assets thru advantageous debt. Only way to follow that strategy for us slaves is cash flowing rental properties with 30 yr mortgages. Go to the “heartland,” stay away from the blue state coastal boom bust areas. Also, gold is for a currency crisis. We speculate in the markets, too, but only successfully in spurts and ultimately unsuccessfully bc of 2007-09 (even though we anticipated the crash, but the strategies we followed didn’t work) and the pm smash this year. ugh. Hence my subscription here. Hey, I’ll try anything for a year… I’m eager to read others’ thoughts, esp. Rick’s.