If Apple Re-Ignites, So Will the Market

[Apple shares are up $27 since this commentary went out early Monday morning. However, there was no sign that  it was having a positive effect on the stock market, since the Dow Industrials were down for most of the session and closed unchanged.  I doubt this divergence can continue for long, so either Apple returns to earth or the broad averages start showing some of that old irrational exuberance. RA]

A ZeroHedge reader who goes by the handle “Kito” took me to task last week for straddling the fence. On the one hand, he observed, I have been predicting a huge Dow rally to 14969. More recently, though, in a commentary published last week and rightly seized on by Kito, I said to hell with the bullish target; with Apple, IBM and Google shares getting bludgeoned, it’s only a matter of time before the bloodshed spreads to the broad averages. So which is it, Kito has asked? Am I bullish or bearish? I dodged his question, suggesting that he “ask around the neighborhood” about my track record as a forecaster.  This was disingenuous, since it implicitly asked him to excuse my waffling merely because my subscribers would likely attest to the accuracy of my forecasts in the past. As we know, however, in the forecasting business a guru is no better than his last prediction.  With Kito’s criticism in mind, as well as the best interests of my subscribers, I’m getting off the fence this morning to offer as clear a forecast as I can  — one that I hope will be illuminating and useful to all.

Let me first say that no chartist possesses a crystal ball. Technical analysis cannot divine the future; it can only help, if combined with horse sense, in estimating the odds of various speculative scenarios.  It is in that context that I see the performance of Apple’s shares in the week ahead as crucial to the stock market’s performance for the remainder of 2012.  I’ve been monitoring

Apple closely because I consider it to be the key bellwether for the U.S. stock market. If this assumption is correct, AAPL must get in bullish gear this week or it’s going to weigh on the broad averages for the rest of the year.  Stocks are already under pressure because some big companies – most recently McDonald’s, IBM and Google —  have reported lower quarterly sales for the first time in three years.  If this represents just a temporary dip in business rather than a trend, we should see Apple erupt before Thursday’s earnings announcement.  Moreover, if such news is indeed coming, the company’s shares should bottom this morning or tomorrow at the latest, and then embark on a 150-point rally to new all-time highs by year-end.  I am also predicting that if the rally comes, at least a third of it (i.e., 50 points) will occur by Thursday night.

Some Negatives

Whatever happens, Apple has a big week ahead of it, including not only the earnings report, but also the introduction of an important new product, the mini iPad.  Regarding sales, the company had better not disappoint, since AAPL shares are already under pressure following a 13.4% decline over the last 30 days.  Not surprisingly, weakness has flushed out some possible reasons to shun the stock, including growing competition from Android-powered phones, most particularly Samsung’s Galaxy.  Others believe Apple has become too dependent on a few products that have saturated their respective markets. And there’s also the reported reluctance of carriers to continue subsidizing iPhone buyers because the practice has become too expensive for them.

With the stock falling hard in recent weeks, it is easy to overweight these negatives and underweight the positives.  But the bullish case remains formidable – sufficiently so that we shouldn’t rule out the possibility that Apple is about to stage a rebound powerful enough to pull the broad averages higher into 2013.  How’s that?  For one, the carriers, most recently Verizon, appear to have changed their minds about eliminating iPhone giveaways. Considering that service contracts required of iPhone buyers can generate $1800 for a carrier over just two years, it’s easy to understand why they have had a change of heart.  For its part, Apple Inc. continues to enjoy such high demand for iPhones and iPads that it has been possible to maintain, by far, the highest profit margins in the business. This fact was probably not lost to Google shareholders who drove the stock down by nearly 90 points last week.

Low PE Ratio

Putting aside the seemingly insatiable craving for its products, strong demand for AAPL shares has faltered only for brief periods in the last decade and seems likely to return with shares currently priced 13% below September’s all-time high of $705.  Even if buyers don’t come stampeding back, institutional investors, who own roughly 700 million shares of a 950-million-share float, are unlikely to bail out at these levels for a couple of reasons. For one, how many world-beating companies can be bought for just 10 times earnings? In that respect, Apple at $600 a share qualifies as a fire-sale bargain. And for two, Apple stores have been packed with buyers since the release a month ago of iPhone5, making truly bad or even merely disappointing earnings a bad bet. Whatever happens, we’ll stick with our prediction that Apple’s performance this week is going to determine how U.S. stocks finish the year.

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  • Jill October 24, 2012, 1:24 am

    Gary

    If U R going to take a rest from the board, please leave an email address where folks can contact U. The way to do that is to sign up for a new email just for that purpose & then discard it after a few days, so as not to get spam. There are machines that scan every page on the entire web, just to read email addresses to send spam to. So no one can leave their primary email on any web page without that happening, I think.

    • gary leibowitz October 24, 2012, 2:43 am

      I better quit while I am still able to. I will be welcome back if the market crashs. Boy will I be welcome.

      I will use a temp site. email at gl56@mailinator.com

      Not sure what more I can add. Just my musings on the daily flow of the market, and expectations. I apologize for my sloppy writing, grammer, etc…

  • John Jay October 23, 2012, 8:36 pm

    Mario,
    Regarding the bottom 40% paying no taxes.
    It depends if we are talking income tax, payroll tax, or both.
    Anyone working on the books pays SS/Medicare and various State payroll type taxes, there is no escaping them.

    “there has been a substantial increase in payroll tax rates financing Social
    Security retirement benefits and Medicare. The combined employee–employer
    payroll tax rate on labor income has increased from 6 percent in the early 1960s to
    over 15 percent in the 1990s and 2000s. Moreover, the Social Security payroll tax
    applies only up to a cap—equal to $90,000 of annual earnings in 2005—and is
    therefore a relatively smaller tax burden as incomes rise above the cap”

    Link:http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/piketty-saezJEP07taxprog.pdf

    I have a better treatment of this tax issue somewhere in my files, but the one I cited gives you a rough idea of how taxes have evolved in the USA over time.
    The article I link to was written years ago, and I think payroll taxes have gone up since then.
    They might be closer to 20% now if you include increases in the rates and State payroll taxes for disability programs etc.
    Up from 6% back in the 60s at any rate.
    If you are working on the books you are paying at least 15% to the State and Feds.

    • Rick Ackerman October 23, 2012, 9:34 pm

      I seem to recall reading that, for the majority of taxpayers, payroll taxes exceed income taxes. In any case, the cost next year of sustaining the hoax that such a thing as a ‘Social Security Trust Fund’ even exists will be an extra $4500 in payroll taxes from each and every high-bracket earner (aka, Obama’s ‘filthy rich’ workers who make $200k or more).

    • mario cavolo October 24, 2012, 3:22 am

      Thanks for the insights JJ…more later 🙂

  • 1987dejavu October 23, 2012, 6:44 pm

    and further evidence, of current signs of a major ’12 top:

    if you look at this week’s chart of last market-leader ‘goog’,
    (since I already consider that ex-leader aapl, topped out weeks ago),

    and you look at google, and see huge cliff-dive it took even on 1-year chart,
    it is obvious (at least to me), that google will not recover, any time soon.

    I’ll go further: I expect aapl to also take a dive this week, from bad sales.

    we shall see what occurs. but I would already be down that fire escape.

  • tom paine October 23, 2012, 6:30 pm

    Hi Rick, et al,

    With the election polls so close, I’m afraid that the stock market may decide the election, which makes it a target for big players that have an interest in the outcome. The Nankster being a perhaps prime among them, he has already made a bold move to secure his position as Fed chief in a second Obama administration by launching open ended an unsterilized monetization of toxic sludge. Not to spare the vulgarity, has Ben shot his wad? Or are there other possible “white knights” who could help save Barry’s presidential career? Who might be playing the other end?

    It could get very interesting.

    • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 7:33 pm

      Didn’t you hear the latest. Donald Trump is making a really big announcement tomorrow that will shake Obama to the core. Birther proof? Muslim? Satin in disguise?

      Stay tuned to the bankrupt billionare clown with a really bad toupee.

      &&&&&

      Gary, your apparent need to post something, anything, at all hours of the day seems compulsive. Why don’t you give it a rest and relax for a couple of days? Perhaps you could spend them getting more intimately acquainted with your spell-checker. RA

    • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 8:55 pm

      I was off over a week. Guess you didn’t notice.

      &&&&&

      I’m sure everyone noticed, Gary. RA

  • 1987dejavu October 23, 2012, 6:24 pm

    the impulsive falling action of friday & monday,
    then the little quick burp upward late monday,
    then today tuesday, a larger deeper volumed fall,
    percentages of daily drops rising, remind of 1987.

    because week before the oct. 19, 22.5% crash monday,
    for that week, the daily drops were increasing in % size.
    their volume also increased, and were ‘90% down days’.

    yet, the current poll at ‘yahoo finance’ home page,
    has 23% out of the market (too poor to own stocks),
    only 9% that are selling now, and a full bull roaring,
    of 68%, that are either ‘buying dip’ or in ‘for long run’.

    so there’s still many gary leibowitzes out there, buying this steroided market.

    Myself, all I see is opposite, signs of extreme record bullishness, everywhere.
    and most especially in the gold price. gold, IMO, is extremely overpriced.

    also, there is fractal shape of dji last 12 months, that,
    believe it or not,
    is very near identical, to fractal dji shape, of oct.86 to oct.87. check it out.

    • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 7:29 pm

      Not according to smart money vs dumb money stats.
      The institutional money has been neutral for months now. 1987? really? We had an overheated inflationary economy with high multiples and it turned out to be no more than a nasty correction. The earnings picture was great just a little more than 1 year after that. We can only wish the same happens today.

      All this talk of gloom/doom yet the earnings picture for this very terrible quarter is beating estimates by over 60 percent, even as sales misses. Who said that productivity is dead. The domestic front has retail sales and home buying doing pretty good, while home prices are surging back. All this on extremely low borrowing costs. But wait, everyone here already announced the crash months ago. Guess it’s just a delayed reaction. No, months before that, and months before that.

      I would love for Rick to look at his old articles and show where everyone was sure THIS ONE was IT. The “BIG ONE. Does anyone get tired of crying wolf all the time?

      This bear has ridden this market up for almost a year, with 2 technically forced exits along the way. How am I better off listening to the potential of a flash crash where for some strange reason I will never get out in time. Is this one it? Irrational fear using emotional bias as the reason? Not me, at least not anymore.

    • Divergent Observer October 23, 2012, 8:51 pm

      Gary you have been posting on this site for quite some time (longer than I’ve been lurking) and I am truly starting to believe what many others have accused you of. Every day or so you post one (or many) of your evaluations on where you see things and it’s mostly rosy. You have been trumpeting Q3 earnings since last quarter and how strong they will be. Daily. Now you state they are beating by over 60% . The reports I’ve read state 56% have missed. How is this stellar? The day QE3 was announced your verdict was in so many words, “I was right, to the moon”. Really?

      I understand you defy the perma-bull mentality. I can appreciate that and I actually enjoy some of the things you have to say. However your daily touts of support and sponsorship of this completely manipulated market have convinced me you are not just chiming in an opinion to the friendly conversation.

    • 1987dejavu October 23, 2012, 8:59 pm

      dear delusional leibowitz,

      can you post herein, your ‘dumb money vs. smart money’ stats, you cite.
      because, unlike you, ever-blind gary, I can be convinced, if I’m wrong.

      however, if you’re ‘a sport’, do look at fractal shape, of dji oct.’86-oct.’87.
      and give me your ‘unbiased’ opinion of what you see, similar to 0ct.’11-oct.’12.

      by the way, lebowitz, old veteran contrarians, that always go vs. crowd,
      like old russell, faber, rogers, celente, prechter, granville, schilling:
      all are against you. all think dji will crash, min. 20%, in 2012-or early ’13.

      are you smarter than them, that have won 50 years, in world stockmarkets?

      don’t think so.

      and fyi, gary, here’s vet schilling’s analysis, on current housing ‘fraud stats’:

      http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-shilling-no-housing-bottom-in-sight-2012-9?op=1

      Myself, I think shilling is way too optimistic, since I think, all ‘american stats’,
      will soon sink way under, 30’s depression level. because now, all is fraud.

    • gary leibowitz October 24, 2012, 1:55 am

      For Divergent,

      http://investorplace.com/2012/10/wall-streets-third-quarter-earnings-woes-run-deep-and-wide/

      This is earnings, not revenue.

      FB – said that mobile will be opportunity for this stock to gain , and it has, much to everyones dismay. Up 14 percent in after-hours.

    • gary leibowitz October 24, 2012, 2:27 am

      1987,
      I was wrong on the smart money index out this last few days. It is at 42%. Sorry, must have used an older data point.

      The proof I have is just the so called manipulated market hasn’t crashed this whole year when there was even a slight notion it could. Every single event brought about a deluge of crash expectations.

      P/E levels tame, expected drop in current earnings. The big event is next quarters earnings. I don’t believe we have to wait 3 months though. Companies are very conservative with their numbers and so far there is not a big drop in 4th quarter expectations. If that changes than so will I. Anyone know the streets expectations for last quarter? Last I heard it was 13 percent rise.

      I know it’s confusing that I tout like a bull, but am expecting a really nasty bear out of this. I just has to do with timing. I believe we will see a surprise economic up trend before this is over. QE3, election year, 4 years of housing recovery.

    • mario cavolo October 24, 2012, 4:26 am

      Hi 1987dejavu,

      dejavu? I don’t think so my friend. In 1987, was the FED pumping 50 billion a month of liquidity into the banking system and had they already pumped in a couple trillion? The U.S. may not be hopping along like a bunny rabbit, but whether you or any other pessimist likes it or not, the numbers ain’t bad and hae been improving. Yes, we do need to differentiate that there are sectors which are rotting in the core, but many other sectors are NOT. What’s so hard to understand about that? In addition, 50% of the S&P500 earnings are international. I coul go on and on, I ‘m just trying to say that while I clearly acknowledge all the bad stuff going on, circumstances of this new world reality are completely different, to take a few variables and try to compare is moot, there is simply no way to compare. Even Rick rightly stated how traditional indicators are now garbage.

      You’re right, good or bad, right or wrong, it is a steroided market. In fact its now a globally steroided market! That’s a market that will crash? Not a chance. With every ounce of intelligence I have I find it easy to suggest that the ONLY thing that will cause another “crash” is any type of major crisis black swan event that may come, such as the sub-prime crisis in 2008, which was a true oh-my-God we’re-in-deep trouble critical moment crisis that required a response. Until then, the world and the market games will keep on going. Another thing, it is not unreasonable to suggest that even in light of all the banking / Wall Street shenanigans going on, the markets could simply be in a big sideways range for many years to come. If I recall correctly, someone who had invested and held TEN years ago experienced exactly that.

      Cheers, Mario

  • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 3:57 pm

    http://www.safehaven.com/article/27410/chinese-stocks-looking-like-a-bargain

    Now here is a strong case for betting on China and a fast trunaround. In fact I suspect it’s stock market will rise twice as fast as ours in the near future.

    You have to ask yourself if the market will crash right before an election and months after the “known” EU crisis. An Obama win means stability in policy and one where the market over the last 4 years did very well. I will not be waiting for January to expect a new upleg. I suspect it will be stating within a week or so. Even if it is not a new long lived upleag, any support at 1396 on SPX will result in a sharp move up, even temporarily. Fear in market and technical support holding is a great odds on bet for a move up.

    • mario cavolo October 23, 2012, 4:43 pm

      There’s got to still be some truth to the “buy low sell high” adage, in which case the Shanghai index is right about ripe for the pickin’ , can be positioned easily via CAF. However, it may muddle around for a long while before it starts moving, but I know what China is capable of so don’t miss that train when it does start rolling…

      Meanwhile, from the various factors I keep reading about, I’m failing to note where and why right now equities may somehow “crash” under current economic conditions. The current state of insane economic affairs could continue for many more years now that we all understand that the world’s CB’s are going to issue liquidity as a new ongoing policy. Its just more inflation folks, yawn. With interest rates so low, and a FED policy nudging people toward equity assets, why would institutions and other investors start completely bailing out of stocks?…and put their money in what instead? Of course I’m mostly looking at the bigger macro picture, not the short term gyrations, but it doesn’t make alot of sense to me, considering the alternatives and reasonable valuations. Ok, for example, if everyone starts bailing out of stocks and therefore into bonds, then that will drive bond prices up and keep interest rates down. Thats good because we all understand that the threat to the current state of affairs is rising interest rates. Am I missing something? Is there a current specific red alert crisis that has our leaders losing sleep as happened in 2008? I suppose one could pop up any day and then “splat” for all of us.

      My friend just tried to explain to me that in the U.S. the top 5% income bracket pays 60% of the taxes, and that the bottom 40% pay none, and that Obama is basically a socialist. Well hell! If your country is going to screw the lower/middle class while corruptly, greedily enabling the rich to get richer, then afterwards you’ve got to support them or they’ll starve! That’s what I was thinking anyway. He further pointed out that the idea of increasing taxes to help cut the deficit problems is silly because the situation debt wise is so far gone that even 100% tax revenue would only run the govt for four months! We’re in deep doo doo in many ways…I still say bottom ine it all means….inflation and reduced currency value.

      Cheers, Mario

    • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 5:16 pm

      Agree with the premise, but can we increase inflation when deflation forces are still winning.

      As for devaluing the dollar, ironically I think it will actually strengthen since political will is leaning towards a budget that will be the leanest in decades.
      The so called fiscal cliff will help the dollar, not hurt it.

      The deflation/inflation debate will rage on until we see a true winner.

  • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 3:37 pm

    If this recent drop in the market is a trend change, what does that say about GOLD? Gold has gone up and down pretty much in step with the stock market. If there is some sort of economic armageddon right around the corner why isn’t Gold reacting positively?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    This drop should test 1396 on the SPX. A break below that could cause more destructive damage, and a change in heart by me. In fact if 1396 does show firm support I will place my short term Call option play.

    If housing took the brunt of this debacle why is the average prices surging, best move up since 2006? Why isn’t anyone commenting on housing anymore? I thought it was forever going to oblivion. You will not see employment surges until all other economic indicators show a surge. I personally don’t think we will have enough time to pull that off, but you never know.

    Correction or topping pattern? We shall soon see.

  • isjosa1 October 23, 2012, 11:00 am

    hi rick

    i want join but feel your headline cometary swings widely from bullish to bearish with just everyday noise, then point to the cometary that suits .

    • Rick Ackerman October 23, 2012, 4:54 pm

      Hang in there, what’s-your-name. You may not benefit financially from my schizoid ravings, but you could yet learn how to spell and construct an intelligible sentence.

  • Robert October 23, 2012, 7:24 am

    I no longer watch intermediate trends.

    I am now a daily watcher of VWAP – every spike move more than 1 sigma above or below vwap is an arbitrage opportunity for the HFT algos, and they swarm in without fail every single time.

    In other words – there is NO intermediate term condition that can predict a long term trend change. Only a looong, drawn out slugfest of rise/decline, or a freaking instantaneous, dive bomb crash is in our future.

  • Rick Ackerman October 23, 2012, 3:51 am

    Here’s a weighty counterpoint to my argument posted by ‘thetruthseeker’ at ZeroHedge:

    “While AAPL still can move the averages, it will not move the stocks of companies that are missing on earnings. We are late in the game. To call for a 12% move up in the averages from here is quite bold. I would rather mind my time in cash or even short select consumer discretionary stocks.”

    If you want to join in the discussion at ZeroHedge, click here.

  • bc October 23, 2012, 12:22 am

    Consumer demand rests on free cash flow provided by living in defaulted homes cost free for going on three years and a $trillion student loan program. Our banks don’t fail because they can sell their bad loans for money good to Bernanke plus a carry trade on reserves that cost nothing. But watch AAPL? If they recover it’s all clear to January? One of these CB spinning plates is coming down, probably starting in Japan or Europe. Phones got nothing to do with it. Bigger forces are in play now.

    • John Jay October 23, 2012, 3:19 pm

      bc,
      And don’t forget the “Free” Obamaphones that you and I pay for in our cell phone invoices.
      I had a nice e mail argument with the folks at snopes.com about that.
      They posted that the Obamaphones are not on the taxpayer dime, that the carriers are charged a “Fee” by the FCC, and that it is not mandated that they charge their customers back for it.
      So when I asked them if they thought Verizon just ate the Obamaphone “Fee” or passed it on to me
      they stopped responding. Must have been the breakdown on my invoice I sent them that shut them up. Spin, spin, spin you can’t get away from it anywhere.

  • John Jay October 22, 2012, 8:37 pm

    I am beginning to notice a trickle of those little Vespa type motor scooters out here in Southern California.
    All being ridden by young people of course.
    Dangerous to ride in traffic, but very practical since it only rains out here from November to April, and then only for 25 days or so spread out over that time period.
    It will be interesting to see how this trend develops as the US economy continues to downsize, and gas prices remain elevated.

    • Chuck October 22, 2012, 10:15 pm

      any of you guys ever read James Kunstler’s blog….Kunstler.com/blog? It’s hilarious and very poignant. From today’s piece:

      “The systems that we depend on for running everyday life can all be clearly described and understood: commerce (WalMart); farming (agri-biz); transportation (happy motoring + airplanes); medicine (sickness hostage racket); education (babysitting), and so on. All of them are near the end of their existence in their current mode of operation. But the system in greatest danger is finance, which is system that is supposed to manage our accumulated wealth and deploy the surplus for purposes that keep civilization going. Finance is the sickest of all these systems now and the one that is most susceptible to collapse. ”

      ******

      I’ve recommended James Kunstler’s Clusterfuck Nation here before and thank you for doing so yourself. He and Charles Hugh Smith (Of Two Minds), another favorite of mine, are two bloggers who never run out of ideas that are fresh, provocative and insightful. RA

    • gary leibowitz October 23, 2012, 12:24 am

      Chuck,
      And I thought financials were being saved with this massive bond repurchase and bank giveways. If anything the banks and financial institutions should be the survivors. Isn’t that what everyone here is complaining about?

      I find it strange how slanted the news has become with all this talk of doom and gloom. The domestic economic indicators seemed to have mad as swift a recovery as possible, given the super tanker economy we have. Retail sales and home price and inventory are doing fine. You can’t have a big reversal in revenue going forward with these types of numbers. QE3 is unlikely to have died before it got started.

      The techs should once again lead this market and telegraph the earnings health.

      As for a notion of us being a service nation, that has been true during the boom years recently. We will not revert back to manufacturing. China on the other hand is now in the midst of a major economic change from export to domestic growth. They will fuel their own destiny with enough internal growth to cushion them from external forces. It will be dramatic and most probably the place to be with investing in the future. There will be hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.

    • mario cavolo October 23, 2012, 12:39 pm

      JJ you desperately need to come to China, a place where the majority of human beings on bicycles and scooters, including mother’s toting their children, helmet free, intermingle with cars, three wheeled carts, and dozens of public busses careening down the road, all of which don’t know the meaning of the words “stay in the lane”. How do you stay in the lane when there is a constant stream of bicycles and scooters and thousands of taxis stopping anywhere along the road? Dangerous? please don’t make me laugh…its just another day in the life.

      Meanwhile in the West you can be certain the motorcycle / scooter / bicycle growth trend will continue in the states, in fact, smart, very smart, and oh my heavens the obesity problem will start to magically fade too.

      Cheers, Mario

  • Marc Authier October 22, 2012, 6:05 pm

    So the faith of the whole market depends on ONE company ? What a bunch of morons these investors. A sure sign of complete and utter cretinism and USA globalist mental retardation when a seller of high tech gizzmo crap. Investors with pea sized brains dominate this anti value racket called the stock market.

  • C.C. October 22, 2012, 5:46 pm

    ‘The key bellwether for the U.S. stock market’

    Imagine that. A company who arguably specializes in ‘entertainment’ devices – and doesn’t even make them here, ‘The’ key bellwether of our economy… Amazing – but True!!! Something just sounds a bit amiss there… Then again, as long as there is the disposable income to purchase what comes out of Foxconn and Quanta computer (safety nets notwithstanding…), who am I to argue?

    • Rick Ackerman October 22, 2012, 6:30 pm

      It could be a long time before the likes of Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Rockefeller and Ford emerge to raise the U.S. economy from the mire. In the meantime, well have to make do with Captains of Industry who are merely clever marketing guys, and products that are built mostly by the Chinese.

  • gary leibowitz October 22, 2012, 3:36 pm

    Yes the stocks metioned above have lead the parade up. If they do break their trend lines than we could see the start of major reversal. The highlighted stocks have had exaggerated moves on the upside, so a sharp but short term drop is not unexpected. The earnings drop was also not unexpected given the EU crisis. The street is expecting it to be short lived, at least in regards to American corporate earnings. I tend to agree given the nice domestic economic upside surprises.

    In any event the downside on this correction could linger to the new year or it could rebound sharply within weeks. I still see no event that will trigger a big reversal of trend. Not yet anyway.

    To be a bear needs a whole lot of patience. We should see a 50 percent drop from peak, and it should be a cascading event. This slow drawn out move of late could tun into a waterfall event, but until it breaks major technical markers it should be thought of as a correction.

  • RidetheWave October 22, 2012, 9:08 am

    I agree with all of the above and because I don’t believe in triple tops (nominal that is) for US indexes (or most vehicles), that Apple + QE3-easy should take us into escape velocity here shortly.

    Once printed on US Headlines of SP500 at 1560 a new record, we will go yet higher upon the US Joe Retail investor’s sales of bonds converted to equities…..

    It is then of course, as always upon heights where the SP500 may reach 1600 to 1800, that the bubble will of course again pop….with the retail guy again in tatters…

    We had a 5 year bull cycle in 2002 to 2007 (very extended) due to easy Al Greenspan and home equity withdrawals….

    I would expect thus a minimum of 5 years (2009 to 2014) with QE3 unlimited….

    Thus the bearish death squad should retreat for a few more moons…its still the wrong trade…..