At 50% Off, Facebook Shares Still No Bargain

[We never tire of explaining why Facebook shares are just so much worthless crap, but the message seems to have been lost on the clueless hacks who bring us the business news each day. Over Labor Day weekend, they and their dim-witted “sources” (analysts hired under CETA?) were in an apoplectic tizzy over FB’s latest plunge to yet another all-time low of 18.03.  Explained the au courant Market Watch: “Facebook Inc. slumped to a record low on Friday after a pair of brokers slashed their price targets on the stock.”  Ahh. So that was it!  The Business [alleged] Insider headlined this shocker: “It’s Becoming Clear That No One Actually Read Facebook’s IPO Prospectus…” And the L.A. Times, taking a rare breather from Obama-mongering, had some bad news for government workers: “Public pension funds stung by Facebook’s falling stock…”

So. The pension-fund biggies are in Facebook shares up to tips of their pointed little heads.  Who knew?  To set them straight, and as a public  service, we have republished below a commentary from August 21 that spelled out not only the reasons why Facebook is headed significantly lower, but the exact price where the stock will attempt a dead-cat bounce: 13.97. For all of you portfolio managers unable to do the math, that’s 22.8% beneath Friday’s close.  And please don’t tell us later that you weren’t warned about buying the stock at these levels — or that you never put much store in technical analysis RA]

Facebook shares took another hellacious dive last week when the lock-up period for insider selling ended on Thursday.  Gluttonously coveted by investors in the months leading up to the IPO, the stock has become a pariah after falling 50% from its $38 offering price in May. Was it jinxed from the start, as some have suggested?  It is indeed true that technical gremlins on Nasdaq plagued the order book the day Facebook went public. And although some sore losers have sued to get their money back (if not their hands, belatedly, on fire-sale shares) the exchange glitches seemed to us like business as usual. Facebook’s real problem is that it is just another Internet fad that will probably never earn a profit commensurate with the $100 billion valuation it was given by IPO buyers.

Looking on the bright side, the hugely hyped public offering served the Darwinian purpose of shifting vast sums of capital from exuberant imbeciles to clever mountebanks presumably able to put it to more constructive economic use.  However, the amounts at their disposal are apt to keep shrinking as more and more speculators abandon the stock.  Readers may recall a prediction made here a few weeks ago that FB would fall to at least $13.97 before finding traction. That would represent a further decline of 27%, based on Friday’s $19.04 close. Even then, we would expect still lower prices to follow once the stock has taken the obligatory dead-cat bounce. But if our initial forecast pans out, FB shares will have lost nearly two-thirds of their value since the company went public.

Advertisers Skeptical

Would-be advertisers were skeptical from the start that Facebook would deliver great returns for their marketing dollar.  Even so, they are apparently having trouble wrapping their pseudo-scientific minds around the counterintuitive notion that a Web-based company with nearly a billion subscribers can’t find a way to monetize all those eyeballs. For its part, Facebook hired away Microsoft marketing hotshot Carolyn Everson to convince Wal-Mart, Coca-Cola, Unilever et al. that Facebook buzz can actually boost their sales. Now, most of us understand that five-hundred-thousand “Likes” for Coca-Cola on Facebook are not necessarily going to sell even one additional can of soda pop. But ad-men do not think that way. They truly believe in their hearts that it will always be possible to increase sales with the right pitch. Thus, to a company struggling to sell term insurance in the aftermath of thermonuclear war, an ad-man might say, “Don’t sweat it!  Instead of focusing on the war and the resulting destruction of civilization, tell your customers about the benefits. Tell them about the security that a good term policy will bring to survivors.”

This can-do spirit may have found its apotheosis in Ms. Everson.  “I love being challenged,” she told a Wall Street Journal reporter. “When people doubt us, that’s when we’re at our best.”  Undoubtedly. To make good on her vow, she has dispatched teams of Facebook researchers to talk with ad-men around the country to determine the best way to prove to them that Facebook is an effective advertising medium.  You’d think that her boss, Mark Zuckerberg, would have given the matter a great deal of thought by now, but you’d be wrong. At a recent meeting with some advertising heavies, they all wanted his assurance that they’d get a good return on their investment if they committed to spending big money with Facebook. Zuckerberg’ s reported response: “That’s a great question, and we should probably have an answer to that, shouldn’t we?”  Well, we can provide the answer ourselves:  Although Facebook is undoubtedly an excellent medium for putting targeted ads in individual customers’ faces, doing so will increasingly annoy those customers, driving them toward whatever next big fad awaits in the social networking arena. This was the clear implication of reported discussions between Facebook and big would-be customers.  They pressed for more data about exactly whom they were reaching, and Facebook obliged by giving up the kind of information that users are going to feel increasingly uncomfortable divulging.  (“Facial biometrics for 500 million users?  No problem-o. Coming right up!“) Trying to safeguard users’ privacy while telling advertisers all they want to know cannot be done. And that is why we see the stock going much lower after it bounces, perhaps sharply, from $13.97.

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  • gary leibowitz September 4, 2012, 9:37 pm

    With AAPL and Gold trying to breakout we could be seeing a precursor to the equities breakout.

    AAPL’s chart pattern IS still in the up channel. Any thought of betting against either Gold or AAPL would also suggest the bet is for a breakdown in equities as well.

  • gary leibowitz September 4, 2012, 4:37 pm

    Still sticking with the notion that FB is no fad. How they capture revenue is out of my expertise. I stayed away from GOOGLE for the same reason. Silly me. Betting against an audience of 1 billion is not a fad. It might or might not translate into a huge profitable site, but the potential is there.

    • Chris T. September 5, 2012, 4:51 pm

      FB is making some money, but not enough to justify the triple-digit market cap, or even 50% of that, as with the current price.

      But it’s not worthless, so the stock just has to find its non-make believe price.
      If that’s $5 or $10, sucks for the rubes who were hoping for a 1999-like pop, but the company doesn’t have to go bankrupt just because its stock is priced realistically.

  • Cam Fitzgerald September 4, 2012, 11:56 am

    Off topic but I came across something that I thought would be of interest to those who still think a US hyperinflation is a future possibility. It is a research paper by CATO discussing most of the known hyperinflations of the past and comparing them against one another. I think it provides additional evidence that such an event is very unlikely to occur but judge for yourself.

    World Hyperinflations:
    By Steve H. Hanke and Nicholas Krus
    Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health,and the Study of Business Enterprise at The Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD 21218
    Dated August 15, 2012

    http://www.scribd.com/embeds/102374445/content

    PS: Good call on Facebook, Rick.

    • gary leibowitz September 4, 2012, 7:59 pm

      If we do get a deflationary spiral in the near future, you can be sure the end result will be hyper-inflation.
      The Fed and government politicians will pull all stops to reverse the deflation spiral. Until that time there will be no inflation scare.

  • Chris T. August 21, 2012, 9:04 pm

    Facebook and CIA:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/036889_Facebook_DARPA_CIA.html

    not endorsing what is said there by this link, but the background info is certainly interesting.
    Also like what he writes about the reverse pump-and-dump

    • bc August 21, 2012, 11:14 pm

      Holy cow! Thanks for posting this. I was at JHU (studying theoretical mechanics) when the SMPY (Studies in Mathematically Precocious Youth) program was getting started. SMPY was funded by the American Chemical Society and routed through the Psychology dept. to intercept smart kids in ninth grade by PSAT scores and recruit them to JHU as children basically (matriculated into college at 14 yrs age) and (hopefully) coax them into Chemistry at an early age. These kids showed up in my graduate level theoretical mechanics lectures and literally corrected the professors during the lectures while the rest of us post grads took notes. The next thing that happened while I was there (1977-1980) was they (the SMPY kids) would wander into the computer science building and never come out. I always wondered what happened to those kids. So the CIA glam’d onto them. No big surprise there. Truly fascinating to me. Thanks again.
      We grad students joked about how preternaturally (and scary) smart these kids were.

    • Chris T. August 22, 2012, 12:32 am

      bc:
      great that you could add some personal experience to that post, and even that has its scary aspect, seeing as the reach of the program is (was?) very deep.

      And here I thought that with these people, nature just had a way of falling into place (as in Michael Phelps, who was given all by nature to become as successful as he has), but NO, man had a hand in it, and from the most nefarious background too.

      Makes all those spy novels (see the Bournes for ex) seem even more less fictional.

      And look at the PSAT use here:
      what an early abuse of total information awareness, wonder if the CIA (or other US snoop departments) didn’t also put some dough into the College Board?

    • Rusty August 22, 2012, 1:46 am

      http://www.nagc.org/uploadedFiles/Information_and_Resources/Hot_Topics/A%20RESUSCITATION.pdf you guys might enjoy reading some of this. In the Cold War it was considered a top priority for defense to find exceptional young people. Sputnik increased the need to urgently find talented young people. Thx for posting.

    • bc August 22, 2012, 2:59 am

      Thanks Rusty. A good read.

    • Chris T. August 22, 2012, 11:32 pm

      will read later too

  • Rusty August 21, 2012, 8:39 pm

    http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ Seems to me an engineered correction could be in the works. Oil and gasoline are too high to be politically acceptable. Oil needs to cool off,otherwise it will become a talking point for votes.

  • gary leibowitz August 21, 2012, 4:04 pm

    AAPL broke out and so did the Spanish Bond Yield. Looks like the EU, which caused this recent pullback is about to be reversed. I believe the Spanish yield is 6 percent, a break from the trend line.

    I am about to get back in on the upside. Still need a close abover 1424 on the SPX. I was expecting a correction before the move but time seems to be running out.

    &&&&&&

    Your AAPL ‘breakout’ is now looking more like a bull trap, since the stock fell 25 points after making an opening-bar, short-squeeze high of 674.88. It will take the scumballs who manipulate this stock some time to surmount heavy supply from buyers who will perforce be feeling less-than-cuddly about the tons of stock they bought near today’s peak. During this ordeal, I told subscribers to buy the Dec 620 – October 620 put spread when the stock was topping; then, when it did its cliff dive, I suggested naked-shorting, just for good measure, Sep 615 puts equal to half of the number of put calendar spreads purchased initially. This will effectively lower the cost basis of our put spread while posing relatively risk despite the “nakedness.” A collapse in the stock powerful enough to push the September 615 puts higher will increase the value of our put spread by even more.
    RA

    • bc August 21, 2012, 10:19 pm

      Had to laugh at the Zero Hedge take on the 1.7% decline in AAPL: “Apple falls one Sony”. That’s right, their market caps are such that losing 1.7% on Apple is like bankrupting Sony. Is one too big, or is the other too small? I’m going with AAPL too big (for its britches) myself.

  • Chris T. August 20, 2012, 9:43 pm

    It’s too harsh to accuse him of fraud, the business is out there, nothing secret about it.

    Taking the rubes for the ride, sure, but fraud, no.
    And MZ is prob. much more of a beneficiary than anything else, if there is any fraud, its to be found in the Wall street aspect.

    He certainly must enough high-and-dry not to be too concerned about the stock price (no Irish real-estate developer he).

    (of course there may be fraud in the big-borther aspect of facebook, just look at the current case of Brandon Raub to see this.)

  • Chris T. August 20, 2012, 7:34 pm

    The classic explanation for the need of an equities market, was always that it was a way of trading some portion of ownership in return for capital needed to grow the business, when other funding options were too expensive, etc.

    Of course leave it to the sleeze-balls to turn the main reaoson for going public (and a long time ago) into cashing out while selling to the yokels.

    Most of the time they are smart enough to leave enough meat on the bones, that a little of the classic benefit of equities — dividend yield at > bond yield (thanks, Howard K.) — is viable, or at least for long enough for the IPO process not to look too blatant.

    But with Facebook, no such attempt:
    It is so blatantly obvious that just about none of the IPO cash is needed to expand, not a capital type business (forget the server, etc infrastructure, peanuts…)
    They set the highest price, and with supply/demand, they would have been foolish not to.
    After all they realized htat this was about as much as they could hope to get, so why not?

    FB at some value will be justified, it’s not as though they can’t make any money, just not what the 100B needs.

    >>How many can honestly say they had a Coke because
    >>they were targeted by the ad?

    That sounds right, but it MUST work.
    Take the example of prescription drug advertising:

    Forget that it is among the most annoying of all ads, and look at the nature of these drugs:

    prescription only, and that means (used to mean) prescibed ONLY when a medical need exists.

    So, there is NO case of marketing to the general public to sway them, because the patients wish is, or better should be, irrelevant
    However, the BigPharma spends billions upon billions on these ads, and have done so for years.
    (not talking about targeted USER market, that user actually being the prescribing physician/
    That one is already lavishly filled with illegal non-approved usage marketing, bribes, etc, all in addition to the consumer marketing).
    They wouldn’t be doing this if it DIDN’T work, so it must, somehow.

    Too bad Mark Zuckerberg isn’t in the food industry:
    that industry has wholehartedly adopted (after very good B2B-marketing) the “need” for a marketing attribute, which doesn’t get marketed by the food industry to the end consumer, and which has a rel. small subset of consumers who look even look for it:
    kosher (with any of the TM symbols).
    The produces billions of revenue.
    Try to find a non-meat food not marked.

    The power of marketing..

    • Benjamin August 20, 2012, 9:37 pm

      Not sure I’m following you on the Big Pharma bit, Chris. All I know is that I haven’t asked my doctor about That Drug because I don’t have yellow toenail fungus. But even if I did, again, it comes down to cost-benefit. I’m pretty sure I can live with having little “fungus monsters” living under my toenails. I either can’t or don’t want to risk the side-effects or spend the money on them. So I guess for every success there’s also a failure (because my wishes and realities, as a patient, should and do matter).

      But getting back to marketing… Advertising is fine. Through whatever medium, gotta let people know your product/service is out there. What I was refering more to was the idea of targeting people by personal or group traits, keywords, digital trails, friends lists, etc. It’s flim-flam. For one, with many things (like prescription drugs) the traget market is already pretty clear. So, just advertise and be done with it. On the other hand…

      I used Coke (well, not really) as an example because it’s one of the many things, by the nature of what it is, that doesn’t have any particular group or set of keywords that does/doesn’t consumes it. And that being the case, why even bother researching those things? If it can/not appeal to anyone, why not just spend the money on the advertising, product research, production and distribution improvements, etc?

      Targetting is dead weight. Ah, but it just works? But how does anyone really know that? Because the things are being sold? But that’s like magic rocks that repel tiger attacks. You carry it with ya and it just works. Again… Dead weight!

    • Chris T. August 20, 2012, 9:49 pm

      I don’t watch TV (except in passing), and I certainly try to avoid ads, but sometimes one does slip through.
      So I couldn’t say which the current prescription drugs on TV are, but just think of the “Caduet” campaing, ot the one for the boost-white-blood cell count.

      Why target “Joe” with those ads, if he is not supposed to have any input in this?
      And as patented prescription drugs, there is not even the choice for the “consumer” of a same-substance, lower cost generic alternative.

      And yet:
      The industry is the second largest advertiser by revenue or close to it.
      Thus if this was without effect, the industry would no longer pay for it. Somehow it must work…

      That was my point, not specifically about targeting…

  • Henry August 20, 2012, 4:57 pm

    Pump and Dump stocks, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.
    They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.
    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.
    Impeach Obama, support Ron Paul.
    Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:
    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  • Chuck August 20, 2012, 4:17 pm

    concerning bc’s post last week:
    It’s probably nothing but…
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chart-day-garbage-shall-set-you-free-gdp-manipulation

    I was in Buenos Aries 3 years ago. The dollar was 3 to 1 against the Argentine Peso…believe it may be 4 to 1 now…anyhow…when the business owners put their trash out in the late evening, the trash pickers would come down the street and pick through EVERYTHING. Just like ants, they would clean the trash of anything valuable. Then they would take their trash picking carts and load them on the 2nd tier trains. These trains were not the clean passenger trains everyone else used. The trash picker trains were very dirty obviously….only used for trash pickers. The point I am making is that perhaps the reason the movement is waste has declined in the USA is that people are picking through it better, and they are recycling as well.

    By the way, the Paraguay poor that came down to get jobs and what not……were not exactly welcome there. They had nothing ‘free’ for them either…unlike how we – up to now – were dealing with the influx of Latinos. It may be that – soon, we will have nothing for free for them either.

    • bc August 20, 2012, 8:27 pm

      I find this kind of data fascinating because it serves as a cross check on official data. Note how during the 2009 crisis, the GDP data and the trash trainloads data are perfectly synchronous. This is the hallmark of a true crisis: everything collapsing at once because even the government is caught flat footed and unresponsive, not even quick enough to distort reported numbers. Now we see trash trainloads plummeting again while reported GDP stays up. Your government at work (gaming numbers) I suspect. Maybe the revised GDP numbers will perfectly coincide with the trash data.

    • mario cavolo August 21, 2012, 7:55 am

      Here we go on a stat mislead.

      It was reported that while China GDP was rising, electricity consumption had in fact declined. Ergo, lies and more lies.

      However, the results exactly the same for the U.S., electricity output and consumption fell 4% and 5.1% respectively while industial output grew 4.6%, according to research on this subject by Darius Kowalczyk, Credit Agricole’s senior economist for Asia

      Electricity In Electricity Out
      Garbage In Garbage Out

      Apparently Not! 🙂

      Cheers, Mario

  • Lucky Nelson August 20, 2012, 3:37 pm

    What puzzles me is how they chose that number, $40, out of thin air. (Opening price per share.) Does one person have the klout to do that? Does he have to consult with certainly guidelines in setting the opening price?

    If Facebook had come on the market at $10 or even $15, this disaster for millions would not have occurred. So who is responsible?

  • Benjamin August 20, 2012, 7:17 am

    The problem with FB is the problem with marketing in general. I mean, really… How many can honestly say they had a Coke because they were targeted by the ad? I’m drinking a diet Dr. Pepper right now, which I bought because the cases were on sale. And fortune cookies. Got a big bag of those. Let’s see what my fortune says…

    “(Saving) money talks, but marketing screams… about how vital it is to the very existence of life on planet Earth.”

    It also says my lucky numbers for today are: “See Rick Ackerman’s Hidden Pivot Targets. Sign up for a free trial today!”

    Wise words, if I may say so myself!

  • Jill August 20, 2012, 5:42 am

    I guess it’s not 1999 any more. Remember then, when people used to say “I don’t see how the company can earn money, but earnings are for suckers. I’ll just buy it and sell it to a greater fool later.”

    • gary leibowitz August 20, 2012, 3:41 pm

      Yes I remember it well. I was a thorn in many of the yahoo message boards when those high flyers had no basis in reality to be where they were.

      But while we noticed the losers got scorched and burned, there were winners among them.

      FB does have a large and loyal audience. Can they ever manage to show strong profits from that exposure? Time will tell. I personally think the major shareholder is sleazy but his social platform should remain viable.

      The best they can do is try and capture dominance in this segment, as Amazon has done in theirs, and gradually show higher profits.

      Not sure how it will end up, but it is not likely they will fall to oblivion like a lot of other internet start ups.

      Jill, welcome back.