Gold’s Nastiness Hints of a Major Bottom

[This commentary has elicited such a spirited discussion, including ruminations on the inflation/deflation conundrum, that I’m letting it run for a second day. RA]

Are gold and the bloodied mining stocks at an important turning point?  So it would appear. Persuasive evidence of this came together for us yesterday after we ran into an old friend, a real estate developer with a commodity-trading jones, who asked whether it might finally be time to buy the stuff.  “Buy it?” we replied.  “We’ve been trying for a week to buy anything gold-related but it’s like trying to catch a jackrabbit.” Hmmm. Is gold trying to tell us something?  Signs had been accumulating. When we turned in late Sunday night, we felt comfortable with a futures “tracking” position in gold acquired near Friday’s lows. Using a Hidden Pivot “camouflage” strategy, several subscribers reported buying the Comex June contract for around 1654.30, based on a playbook sketch accompanying Friday’s trading touts.  Later in the day, with gold in a strong rally, we advised taking partial profits that would have reduced the theoretical cost basis of the position to 1641.50.  With the futures trade near 1665.00 Sunday night, how could we lose?  We advised subscribers to use a 1649.10 stop-loss for what remained of the position.

The chart above tells what happened next. Although June Gold was practically unchanged as we went to press Monday night, an intervening swoon of $40 — $20 down, then $20 up – had taken us out on the stop-loss Monday morning, as it must have many other traders who fancied themselves sitting pretty Sunday night.  Now the task of climbing back on board will be doubly difficult, since gold is taking increasingly radical evasive maneuvers to disabuse its growing fan club of the notion that it will be easy to make money on the long side merely because the trend is up.

Leaping Out of Reach

The action has been even more frustrating – and commensurately more bullish — in some gold ETFs popular with Rick’s Picks subscribers, including GDXJ, a proxy for the shares of junior mining companies.  We scratched long positions three times in the last two weeks as GDXJ bounced from successively lower bottoms anticipated by Hidden Pivot analysis.  We held no position when last week began, figuring we could easily jump back in if there were bullish stirrings. Lo, GDXJ took a powerful leap from a 21.53 trench last Wednesday (see chart below) and hasn’t looked back since. By Friday’s close, this trading vehicle had achieved 23.50 – a 9.3% rally in the space of just three days.  Making GDXJ even more difficult to buy “right” is the fact that its pullbacks have been shallow even when physical metal was flat-to-down intraday.

What turned our observations into an epiphany, however, was the note we received yesterday from Phil C., a gifted chartist whose impressive track record took a nasty blow a while back when he put out a very aggressive buy recommendation on Kodak just before the stock deep-sixed.  This time, he is just as sure: “We are at the end of the precious metals correction that has been in place since last year’s highs. Gold and silver have both completed, six-month reverse head-and-shoulders bottoms. The next move higher should start tomorrow, May 1st!”   Phil’s misstep in Kodak shares aside, we think he’s going to be right this time. Gold (and silver) are carving out a bottom distinguished by its viciousness. If you want to join us as we look for a risk-averse way to ride the Brahma bull, click here for a free 7-day trial subscription that will give you access to all Rick’s Picks services, including a 24/7 chat room that draws traders from around the world.

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 6, 2012, 11:09 pm

    Splitting hairs BDTR. Did you read my post? The trend for 9 months has been down. Nobody was even talking about 10 year charts. Try to keep up.

    Seriously, you gold-people are sooooo touchy.

    • BDTR May 8, 2012, 12:41 pm

      Long v short term is hardly splitting hairs, Cam. Perspective is multi-tiered in time and confusion ensues if that’s not distinguished in argument.

      You seem very impatient to make a point regarding deflation, but conflation of time-frame-effects and cause and effect seems more the issue with some of your time-line blurring statements. For example;

      “Until I see consumption and credit demand rise in response to existing expansionary monetary policies and the suggestion of more easing I will not be convinced gold is gloing [sic] anywhere but down. ”

      The issue of proactive expansionary monetary strategy in prospectively countering sector price deflation manifests over the long term and price always lags the act, in some instances over years. It’s the primary reason that the Fed always over-or-under-shoots itself in the foot.

      By inference you’re talking long term effects but seem to ignore that gold’s intact long trend is up and we’re in a nearly complete intermediate correction within the long trend. It’s likely going to re-test support @ $1550 – $1525 before it resumes its upward long trajectory to successive new highs.

      There’s no fundamental reason from a monetary strategy viewpoint that doesn’t support higher nominal price for gold irrespective of the short or intermediate dollar’s relative strengthening against the euro. Both are committed to supporting price levels through easing as counterweights to price deflation that threatens the parabolic Ponzie of collateralized debt.

      One will surpass the other alternatively as disequilibrium progresses. Gold will eventually disconnect as confidence in monetary management fails utterly. Mania in gold then ensues, parabolic blow-off top, long term correction to sustainable price relationship within a ‘new’ global fiat regime. It can easily take over another decade to complete. Or, a flash-point catastrophe could precipitate it much sooner.

      In the intermediate term gold has very possibly another test of support @ the above mentioned range. Shake-out level for the fearful and weak hands and approaching a opportune entry point for the patient and calm for the next leg up. Fearful diatribes are par for the course in corrective phases.

      I suggest that you attempt to distinguish the difference between price-deflation and the monetary variety. They are two very different animals that have been thoroughly confused by decades of agenda laden monetarist rhetoric.

      That fundamental distortion is what makes those of us having more confidence during crisis in a millennial, global standard of value than that of any politically driven fiat regime a bit less than patient with those who can’t seem to distinguish cause from effect, value from price, fear from greed and relative timing within markets in historic context.

  • BDTR May 6, 2012, 3:54 pm

    Cam, you state;

    “The trend for gold is down, not up.” A 10 year chart chart begs to differ.

    http://goldprice.org/charts/history/gold_10_year_o_usd.png

    Saying that something is bullshit isn’t “name calling”, Cam, especially when, in fact, it is bullshit.

    As characterization of a statement goes it may not be the most polite, but I found no name calling in Robert’s posts. That said, to state the above regarding gold’s trend as down easily qualifies.

    Periods of intermediate term correction within a primary, long term trend can last well over a year but are confined above chart indicated technical price supports. In the current instance, that level is roughly @ $1525.

    It’s a different argument to discuss whether gold has overshot relative fair value, priced @ $1900, and subsequent market action suggests that it has, but only on an intermediate basis. Oscillating price invariably overshoots in both directions until time relative equilibrium establishes. Simple.

    Ricks’ algo methodology enables profitable trading potential of short and intermediate term moves in any given market, but long term trend for gold is in technical fact still up and in corrective mode well above support.

    At a point in the not too distant future, likely before 2020, gold will long term peak. There’s various potential scenarios that will influence timing and level of a top, but a distinguishing characteristic will be a parabolic ‘blow-off’ that will be unmistakable to anyone with the presence of mind and frame of reference to recognize it.

    Mania will occur, but we’re not even close to it yet. The monetary regime that underlies this generational gold bull market is firmly entrenched and irrevocably committed to supporting nominal asset prices through parabolic monetization to collateralize unprecedented leverage to debt.

    The supporting T-bond market is the ultimate bubble of epic proportions floating price that will explode, and the equally epic but futile effort to re-inflate it will drive gold to a manic apogee, likely well into five figures, in as many years.

    In light of your own fundamental misunderstanding, Cam, this statement to Robert is supremely ironic;

    “I actually prefer you angry over someone who is just out of their depth.”

    Fair’s fair. I personally prefer you, Cam, calm and within your depth. Emotionalism in these times is ruinous for any and all.

    Gold, on the other hand, is millennially determined and factually elemental.

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 4, 2012, 4:44 pm

    I am quite calm, BDTR. Actually I feel terrific and have been in very good spirits all week. Perhaps you are reading too much between the lines instead of actually just reading what is written at face value. Fascinating.

    Gold is truly the most emotional of investments.

    I have to wonder why so many in the gold-camp are so touchy lately. I suspect it is because most of you have married your investment and lost perspective. What you call “intransigence” is actually just a different viewpoint than your own. I am entitled to see things differently and indeed I do. That is known as an opinion and my opinion is that gold will never again be a currency in our lifetimes. It is just another investment class from the thousands available and one that has been fraught with volatility these past months.

    Why would anyone even bother to argue that gold is rising when it peaked so many months back? Clearly it has been in a funk and falling. That is self evident by the charts. So no rage or anger as you suggest. Just staing the obvious. Roberts arguments do not therefore make any sense to me. Nor do yours.

    Perhaps go back and read Roberts comments. He has called my posts bullshit which was a bit over the top as far as I can see. Shall we all resort to name calling and petty insults when we can’t win an argument now?

  • Robert May 3, 2012, 12:37 am

    Gold is obviously entering a great bear market. and the The global gold market is free, fair and honest.

    Here are all the facts you need to buy into this thesis (courtesy of tfmetalsreport.com):

    The Comex futures market is a true, fair and perfect price discovery vehicle.

    There is no demand for physical gold and/or silver in size. All of this talk about sovereign nation and central bank buying is simply a tool used to manipulate price higher.

    The Federal Reserve never has, and never will, intervene in gold to manipulate and suppress price.

    The bullion banks simply engage in selling forward for their mining clients.

    Gold really is a barbarous relic of another time.

    Fiat currency is wonderful because limitless money creation spreads wealth globally.

    The Chinese are fools who mindlessly continue to accumulate dollars with no alternative but to reinvest those dollars into U.S. treasuries.

    Same for the Russians.

    And the Saudis.

    And the Japanese.

    Paul Krugman is a genius.

    So is Nouriel Roubini.

    So is Jeff Christian.

    So is Jon Nadler.

    The total debt level of the U.S. is manageable and not a problem, at all.

    Economic growth will soon return the U.S. to peace and prosperity while allowing for the service of the accumulated national debt.

    Barack Obama is the most intelligent and supremely qualified Chief Executive that the United States has ever had.

    TARP was extraordinarily successful and actually turned a profit for the American people.

    Deficits don’t matter.

    Money printing and quantitative easing is perfectly fine so long as the velocity of money remains low and the printing is nothing more than balances being shifted within Primary Dealer accounts.

    Transfer programs such as Social Security and Medicare are fully-funded and will always be there to provide a safety net for the elderly, the poor and the disabled.

    The Federal Reserve never has, and never will, intervene in the equity, treasury and/or currency markets.

    Ben Bernanke is an Einstein-level genius. We are very fortunate to have him as Fed Chairman at this critical point in history.

    Silver is simply an industrial metal. Always has been, always will be.

    As a byproduct of mining for other base metals, the amount of silver is infinite.

    Those hoarding silver are mindless robots, fooled by internet charlatans.

    Jim Sinclair is a disinformation double-agent of the Rothschild family.

    Trader Dan Norcini is a mindless pumper whose sole motive is personal gain.

    Andrew Maguire is a figment of Bill Murphy’s overactive imagination.

    Ted Butler, Jim Willie and John Williams are scam artists who dupe the easily-frightened into paying for their over-priced and worthless analysis.

    FOFOA, Keiser, VonGreyerz, Hoffman, Krieger, Embry, Russell, Pento, Schiff, Rickards, Celente, Rule, Fleckenstein, Faber, Quinn, Nielson, Naylor-Leyland, Turk, Martenson, Lira. All of them are nothing but 21st century snake-oil salesmen.

    GLD is 100% backed by gold and it’s custodian has no conflicts of interest.

    SLV is 100% backed by silver and it’s custodian has no conflicts of interest.

    PSLV and PHYS are empty shell con games created and marketed to extract hefty NAV premiums from dupes.

    Eric Sprott should be extradited to the U.S. on criminal front-running and book-pumping charges.

    Mining stocks, in general, have been in a bear market since 2009 because the fundamentals are lousy.

    The LBMA is a distinguished group of member firms which actively promote fair and free pricing of metal.

    JPMorgan is a benevolent organization which only performs necessary investment banking services for their clients.

    Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, UBS, HSBC et al are similar, honest companies.

    High-frequency trading helps in price discovery and provides liquidity.

    The CME Group is a dispassionate facilitator of markets and clearing which stands ready to eliminate fraud and protect investors.

    The CFTC is an objective and honest U.S. government agency which regulates the futures markets, always on the lookout for fraud and manipulation so that the regular investor and/or hedger can have confidence in a fair and level playing field.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 3, 2012, 1:21 am

      If Eric Sprott, as a dealer, a buyer and primary custodian of both gold and silver closed-end Exchange Traded Funds wants to suggest price fixing ideas with producers (and thus leaving the impression of colluding with gold miners) to manage prices then maybe he should be extradited to face SEC charges of market manipulation. I do not have all the facts here but it is my understanding he wanted to create a sort of union amongst suppliers (miners) to hold up prices by managing supply to take the highs and lows out of the sales process. Seeking Alpha had commentary on the topic. Is it true? Who really knows. It is worrisome though and so it should be examined very closely. The trend for gold is down, not up. Anyone can see how organized influence under such circumstances could lead to very large losses for investors who are not sophisticated about markets. For all I know, Eric is already coming under scrutiny. If even I have heard rumors then there must be more to this story than meets the eye. Perhaps some of you more connected types can fill in the details.

    • Robert May 3, 2012, 6:13 pm

      Again- you are totally and completely on the worng side of the equation.

      The trend in Gold is down? Which trend do you refer to? the 3 hour ? 3 month? certainly not the 3 year.

      “If Eric Sprott, as a dealer, a buyer and primary custodian of both gold and silver closed-end Exchange Traded Funds wants to suggest price fixing ideas with producers (and thus leaving the impression of colluding with gold miners) to manage prices then maybe he should be extradited to face SEC charges of market manipulation”

      I can’t even begin to address the idiocy of this statement – I am forced to assume that your comments today are deliberately trying to incite energetic response, because you are making some of the most intellectually repressive observations I’ve ever seen even YOU make…

      Regarding Sprott- his observation is simply that the miners can easily deny their output to the market if their desired price is not met. There is nothing illegal or collusive about that.

      Prices are FIXED by the paper futures market (where multiples of actual above ground Gold stocks and multiples of annual new production) are traded weekly.

      Nobody can compel (force) the mining companies to accept the London daily fix price for their output, any more than I could respond to you used car ad and declare “You will sell me your car for what I want to pay, not for the price you have posted”

      Get it?

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 3, 2012, 7:50 pm

      Oh Sure. I get it Robert. Your emotional response to the topic of Gold is fascinating. What if the subject was grains though? What if we were talking about telecommunication services or steel monopolies?

      Would you still feel the same way?

      I doubt it. Whenever anyone attempts to form a union amongst sellers they are in fact attempting to create a cartel from which they will personally benefit.

      Mr Sprott may indeed be attempting to do just that and if he is then he is in contravention of regulations surrounding market prices which could thus suggest he is in the business of price manipulation.

      Sprott is a dealer, not a supplier. What business does he have in forming a union of miners to fix prices then? What is his interest or agenda? He may say it is to create price stability in the marketplace but that does not fly in my books.

      Imagine you lived in a very small town of 100 people. Five of them are in the business of supplying the grains that we all need to make bread. Now obviously it does matter that one individual attempts to set prices in order to ensure that the normal seasonal variability in pricing is eliminated. Who does that benefit? Surely not the consumer who buys his grain in bulk annually near harvest when prices are at their low point.

      As I noted yesterday, you seem to be too smart for your own good sometimes. Your gold bias and agenda are all too obvious. So much so that you prefer to ignore obvious price fixing where it impacts your own investments. So don’t take it personally when I comment that you seem to have lost perspective on what is right and what is fair.

      If Sprott is indeed engaging with miners to control output or prices then he may be in collusion to monopolize the market in some respects and he should be challenged. Perhaps even charged although that is not my call. Lets just say I support those who work to reduce anti-competitive bahaviors.

      Like I stated earlier though, I do not have all the facts on the subject so I cannot render more than a hypothetical opinion but I do not like what I am hearing. Perhaps I will dig deeper into this later tonight and see for myself what Eric is actually proposing. Right now I am only commenting on your comments and the little I have read on other sites.

      On the subject of gold……yes gold is falling. Where the hell do you live anyway? The peak was reached 9 months ago and any damn chart will prove it. Sheesh! Go look for yourself since you have made an ass of yourself suggesting otherwise.

      Gold is falling. It is even falling today for GOD’s sakes. It is going to fall below 1600 soon while Silver may well be sub 30 bucks this very day. I thought you were brighter than that, man……..

      Get a grip……..(get it).

    • Robert May 4, 2012, 3:13 am

      So, those lower prices say what, exactly…?

      I’m sure to you they say “Deflation! Deflation!, Auntie Em! Auntie Em! It’s a big twister of Deflation!…”

      To me, low prices trigger the first half of the “buy low, sell high” foundation of profit generation.

      Oh, and regarding the grain producer… If I’m the farmer who grew the grain, then I have the RIGHT to decide the price at which I am willing to sell it.

      I can choose to set my grain silo on fire and watch it burn while the town goes hungry, if I should choose to do so, rather than accept an offer that I find to be too low.

      My efforts, my productivity, my output….. MY price, or MY choice to accept your price.

      Your statement “I support those who work to reduce anti-competitive behaviors.” indicates to me that you have no idea what the true nature of the bid/ask relationship really is.

      Where the bid meets the ask, there is fairness. everywhere outside that meeting, there is only fraud.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 4, 2012, 5:21 am

      I am going to let it go, Robert. I suspect you are just speaking out of anger now. I actually prefer you angry over someone who is just out of their depth.

    • BDTR May 4, 2012, 3:35 pm

      This may be days late and you may not read it, but really, Cam.

      As impartially as possible I judge your accusatory remarks as simply projecting your anger and a raging emotional bias.

      If one objectively looks at what humanity has determined as sustainably valuable in terms of money, independent of politically imposed and inevitably failed fiat in it’s many incarnations over many millennia, gold and silver are undeniably a matter of fact choice.

      It’s only when political entities attempt to fix and/or dilute a free trade basis of value to gain advantage over trading partners or competing populations, have things gone awry with PM’s as a value standard.

      Your intransigence ignores facts clearly presented by Robert, as well as the reality that the very nay-saying arguments that you so obstinately cling to have been commonplace in easy reading for well over a decade.

      Now, when the ‘relic’ was about a sixth of its recent, intermediate term corrected, paper price of about $1525.00, and when what’s fundamentally driven it since 2k is accelerating globally in out of control, unsustainable systemic debt, it’s suddenly all over?

      To suggest that the entire global culture, including CB’s adding to reserves, is mistaken in valuing gold as protection against surreptitious fiat dilution is to deny a cyclicly recurrent behavior in history of reclaiming personal, economic autonomy from the insidious subterfuge of political tyranny. It’s precisely why Hitler was enraged at the very thought of gold.

      Very old story. Please, calm down and try to ‘get it’.

  • Jill May 3, 2012, 12:36 am

    “There is more than enough Gold on the continent to balance the books if the worst were to happen”

    How can that be, with the futures market the way it is? I don’t really understand the futures market, but as far as I can tell, it is a shell game where people can buy more gold than really exists, or sell more gold than actually exists. Apparently though this works only if most buyers don’t take delivery. But if that were to change…

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 3, 2012, 2:11 am

      Delivery is an impotent threat. Stroke of a pen and it’s game over. You think the process will drive the price of gold into the stratosphere. I say it might trigger unexpected outcomes. Gold will never again be a currency in your lifetime. The world cannot afford the instability engendered by a lack of mechanisms to manage the economy that a gold currency implies. It was fine when there were but a few million inhabitants on planet earth. It is an impossible concept when there are billions of lives to be accounted for. The problem with most gold-huggers is that they hate structures designed for the benefit of society while reserving for themselves a special seat of control over financial affairs of the globe. They actually think they can be better custodians of our collective wealth while doling out small dollops of food to the starving. Judging by their many insane comments all over the web, I will gladly embrace the haphazard policies of the Fed and our many other Central Banks over the bullying of the metals crowd any day of the week. There are no greater fools than those who demand the end to monetary levers and that rat-pack of gold lovers who spew vitriol across the web are amongst the worst in class. Of course I would support seizure if they ever had even a small chance of success. There is no equity available amongst people in their ugly idealistic world. Just a beggar thy neighbor approach and a survival of the fittest philosophy that rewards them personally for mere ownership of lumps of metal while impoverishing their neighbors.

    • Robert May 3, 2012, 6:04 pm

      Cam-

      I can’t zero in on which part of your post is the biggest piece of horse$hit, so I’m going to offer a simple FACT for you to think about:

      The supply of Gold (money) has risen in about lock step fashion with human population. The median level has been one ounce of Gold above ground for every person on Earth for a few millenia now.

      The free market (based on the laws of nature) will NOT be denied its right of “rule”.

      You go ahead and keep siding with the meddlers- I’m sticking with nature.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 3, 2012, 7:58 pm

      The problem with your math is that it never adds up Robert. You simply don’t get it so you will always be on the outside looking in and crying about how unfair the world is. Nobody cares about how many ounces of gold per person exist on planet earth. Nobody really knows anyway just as few know how much sits in Fort Knox or how much the Chinese government is buying in a desperate bid to back a new reserve currency. Your frustrated sounding comments only reflect what the camp of gold-huggers espouse as evidence of value. But that is not how value is determined. I won’t even bother to explain because you are totally blinded to what is taking place and it is a waste of my time to help you.

  • Vlad May 2, 2012, 11:03 pm

    I am not for, or against, gold; I don’t care. However, my opinion is, IF gold price goes (for whatever reason, incredibly) into several thousands of usa dollars an ounce (imagine world that will occur in, so) I am certain gold will be confiscated by ALL national govts. (not just usa) same as in usa’s fdr 1933, and at whatever $ price they feel like giving you; and, if you don’t fork it over fast, just like in 1933, you are going to jail, for ten, 10 years. (however, that’s if they catch you, of course, since you might be trickier than them, in hiding your golden booty).

    About your 2 paragraphs, 1 thing doesn’t make sense. If institutions are always net sellers, when do they buy, in order to sell? Could be when they have CERTAIN wealthy insider information, that’s never available, to retail investors?

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 3, 2012, 12:01 am

      Retail buyers and individuals might get caught up if confiscation were to actually take place. Those would not be the real targets though. Much more simply, seizures would take out the reserves held by ETF’s such as SPDR’s GLD that are currently held in vaults on US soil. There is more than enough Gold on the continent to balance the books if the worst were to happen and the dollar fail (the dollar will not fail so don’t worry). Much of it is held in just a few locations. From a government perspective it is always easily accessible. On tap, if you like.

  • Vlad May 2, 2012, 10:00 pm

    here’s something serious for gold bulls to ponder, as to what type of investor is buying gold now, and which is selling.

    Info comes from kitco’s gold website’s most respected and daily read commenter, John Nadler. He wrote this several weeks ago, and I quote him:

    “..frequent Forbes contributor Nigam Arora. Being a nuclear physicist (among other things), it is little wonder that Mr. Arora takes an interest in numbers. ”

    “In his latest Arora Report, he relays that, as we have pointed out here numerous times, the sky has a tendency to… remain in place in lieu of crashing down upon us and suddenly enriching us by virtue of what such an event is thought (hoped?) to do to gold prices.”

    “More interestingly, Mr. Arora’s algorithms show that humans will be… humans (some forums call them “sheeple”) and that trend-chasing and mis-timing are not only as alive and well as they were back in 1980, but that they do harm to small retail investors whilst enriching the savvy, professional ones. ”

    “To wit (quoting Arora): “in gold’s run from $1,450 to $1,910, [last September] 70% of the buying was by retail investors. Only 7% of the buying was from institutions. ”

    “In the subsequent run from $1,600 to $1,760, 85% of the buying was by momentum chasing retail investors, but the ‘smart money’ was a net seller. ”

    “In the latest run up, 92% of the buying between $1,500 and $1,790 is from mom and pop. Institutions are again net sellers.”

    “Are you starting to see a pattern here?”

    • Jill May 2, 2012, 10:11 pm

      Ok, so gold rose up $460 with mostly retail investors buying it at one time, and $160 with mostly retail investors buying it at another time. The next question needs to be how much does gold rise when institutions are net buyers, assuming that they ever are?

      I’ll have to see if I can find some COT reports, but my memory of them is that institutions are almost always net sellers, including when gold rises a whole lot more than in those 2 instances. In fact, there are all kinds of stories around about JPM and other Big Playas being short more gold futures than exist in real gold, and yet it still has been rising over the long run.

  • FranSix May 2, 2012, 4:39 pm

    The salient change in Canadian markets that made the rout in gold mining shares a reality is the abusively of the ‘no down-tick’ rule. This was permitted for delta hedging strategies only. Since most listed gold stocks in North America are listed on Canadian exchanges, the resulting underperformance of the entire gold sector was spectacular.

    The irony though, is that most gold producers might not otherwise benefit unless you see a gold price averaging better than $1750/oz. So ask of the agonizing and hand wringing in the sector is pretty much neurotic navel gazing. Gold companies brutally tore themselves apart in the process, guaranteeing that delta hedging rss the right strategy for 2011.

    Can’t last.

    http://www.sharelynx.com/chartstemp/GoldeWave.php

  • Mark Uzick May 2, 2012, 7:28 am

    Rick, the essay you link to on “The Sultan Of Knish” blog is a such great insight into the nature of the state that it’s disturbing that the author, instead of recognizing Ron Paul as his natural ally, condemns him as an ally of the neo-Nazies.

    This infiltration of neoconservative ideas into what would otherwise be libertarian thought is truly insidious.

    • Jill May 2, 2012, 7:55 pm

      Inevitable, with Fox, Clear Channel and other popular media outlets going All Neocon All the Time. Of course propaganda works. You wouldn’t have people paying hundreds of millions of dollars for paid political announcements if it didn’t work.

  • erikcorr May 2, 2012, 5:06 am

    Gold miners are super cheap but how much cheaper can they get? and if the market declines they will still go down- markets are not efficent or rational.- They- the Gold miners will catch up once gold gets another major move forward- another 24 months will make them or break them.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 2, 2012, 8:17 pm

      Cheaper. Don’t take my word for it, but if you want to get in deep right now on optimism and hope then I think you will just end up being meat for the machine. Look at the dollar…….rising…..that should give you pause before you bet the house on black.

  • Jill May 2, 2012, 3:52 am

    Yeah, wrong and rich doesn’t sound so bad, Gary, LOL. Good point.

  • gary leibowitz May 2, 2012, 1:07 am

    Everyone keeps patting themselves on the back for understanding the real economy yet 4 years of absolute spectacular earnings has alluded all.

    I would rather be wrong and rich.

    Has anyone actually listened to the forward looking earnings projections? I can assure you corporations are the most conservative bunch when it comes to announcing price projections. The current quarter produced over 5 percent growth and the next 2 should see 16 percent. What will change these projection? I suppose overseas policies, but not much internally.

    Do you really think corporations are part of this conspiracy? They are micro minded individuals that focus on their companies growth and value to shareholders.

    • Vlad May 2, 2012, 7:00 pm

      woah, keemosavvy, it’s 3 years, not 4, of ‘absolute spectacular’ (fully-‘fed’-made) supposed ‘profits’ (more like survival ‘gifts’).

      since, while rome wholly burns, ‘fed’ elves in nearby forrests, are continue making magic non-real dollars, out of infinite green leaves; and thus, convincing most, that magic lives forever, and even while, rome smokes and cinders.

      ‘wrong and rich’ sounds great; yet, when burning worm turns, instantly, and with no warning, you better be fully out of way, for there’s zero time, to escape.

      For planet trap is fully set. it’s the banks, the big ones. And when 1 goes, rest go down in flames right after. And that’s why they are all holding hands, tightly, along with their big daddies, central banks.

      The entire 2012 financial world, is one big fire trap. All it needs is a match. And there ain’t gonna be no commodity ‘rally’, none, after that match is lit.

      Everything down, hugely, except govt. fiat ‘legal tender’. All that’s needed is that first bigbank run.

      So, ‘do you feel lucky, punk?’ For it’s a .44 magnum you are facing. For, can you get fully out, before ‘the (fed) music stops?’ ‘Cause if not, you’ll be ‘wrong and broke’, and jumping off the chrysler building.

      However, I agree with Ackerman in 1 thing—who knows how long this fed-induced free-money madness will last, weeks? months? years? So maybe there’s another rally yet in the cards for gold and silver, but I doubt it. For I don’t see any -defined- h&s (yet), in gold price, since all I see is a slowly deteriorating chart, and with a 50/200 mda death-cross; so it seems to me more likely to me, that there’s a big dive down straight ahead, that will break the last dive down to low $1500’s. And I won’t even discuss silver, for it’s chart is even worse, to my eyes. For silver can hit $20/oz. in a blink of an eye, with any big banking alarum, be it worldwide central or private.

      Yet, there are always those ‘fed’ elves in the forrests, making infinite green leaves appear to be infinite green dollars, even while rome burns. So, maybe there’s still more gold/silver rallies ahead.

      But maybe not, if the quadrillion-debt music finally stops. And assisted by those micro-second fast hal-9000 computers, in sterile cool basements, in jersey.

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 1, 2012, 11:59 pm

    Complete agreement with you on the dollar BDTR. You said it perfectly. The dollar will not fall as long as it is inversly impacted by the Euro. They teeter-totter against one another. This in fact explains why a Euro debt crisis is actually necessary to press the ECB into printing and devaluation to offset an equal devaluation in greenbacks. The dollar alone cannot be seen to be falling in value too quickly but against a backdrop of Euro presses running full tilt to catch up then balance can be achieved. The relative factor is at play here as both are in fact devaluiong one against the other.

  • gary leibowitz May 1, 2012, 8:16 pm

    Just couldn’t resist.

    The “sweet spot” I have been talking about is here. The Fed is now talking about raising rates in mid 2013. Manufacturing picking up, spending picking up, earnings picking up, employment steady, even savings and wages picking up.

    Not likely the dollar falls from here. Not likely gold will zoom ahead this year. It should keep pace with equities growth.

    I believe we might have a breakout confirmed this week.

    I just can’t concieve how a conspiracy theory can explain away all the data points over the last 4 years. Must be on grand iron-clad world controlling group to pull off a scam like this one.

    Don’t dispair though. It is exactly because there is no conspiracy that I believe debt will have to be addressed. If the governments can buy time to restructure all the housing debt and fiscal deficits than the world will skirt a major depression. I give those odds 1 in 100, but possible. They would have to balance the austerity needed and allow for slow growth.

    • BDTR May 1, 2012, 10:18 pm

      The reason that the $ isn’t likely to fall in a hurry is due to the vast monetization of unsustainable debt by the ECB now and into the darkening foreseeable future.

      I can’t see how the Fed or the ECB can raise rates when just a few basis points higher would start a spontaneous collapse of the institutional Ponzi in hundreds of trillions in debt, interest rate and price performance derivatives.

      The real ‘growth’ numbers on both sides of the pond are going negative when to just sustain current debt maintenance they need to be at about 6% near where China’s is, (but isn’t likely to linger much longer). There’s no chance in hell of real growth in any major western economy, it’s a matter of where contraction bottoms. US manufacturing ‘pick-up’ doesn’t include human jobs, we can compete in some sectors, but only with robots.

      Buying time is exactly what’s being done, but the PIGS are all under water on already borrowed time, (governments are already falling), as are about 27 US states and over 600 hundred cities, counties and municipalities.

      I think that nominally the monetization that we’ve seen is a drop in the bucket to what lies directly ahead just to barely maintain a no future status quo. The market now is an algo driven farce, fundamentals don’t apply, all that matters to the Fed is that there’s no price collapse before November and that AAPL can carry the S&P. That’s a stretch in both ability and foresight for a dimly reactionary CB commanding roboto-markets and synthetic debt backed by the collateralized toxins of retro-hypothecated dreams of Mets fans.

      Maybe that we can stay afloat by sheer dumb luck and war avoidance for another few years. But, this is a game of attrition with impossible numbers resulting recurrent crises and the inevitable spiral in end with no real winners except anarchists, police suppliers and grave diggers.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 2, 2012, 1:52 am

      Sorry to disagree on this point, Gary, but growth trends and expansionary expectations are not what is behind the sudden about face on the issue of rates. Not a damn chance. Lets keep in mind that the Fed has until now been very consistent in its approach, its timetable and its explanations for when rates “might” rise in 2014. What has changed in a week? They have already run the numbers innumerable times and modeled the outcomes. What is different is that energy prices are rising again and with them the implications that energy driven inflation compounded with that already generated by easy money leaves them little choice but to act. Put another way, they know something we do not know and it is almost certain that political back channels are ripening with talk of the potential for Middle Eastern troubles. I will take a guess that Israel is ramping up the pressure to take out Iranian facilities sooner rather than later. I do not know of course. Just speculating. It cannot help that Russian troops were rumored to be building on Iran’s borders to discourage an Israeli/US preemptive strike. I honestly hope that is a false rumor but we shall see soon enough.

  • BDTR May 1, 2012, 6:41 pm

    I found it helpful, Cam, to put gold where it belongs traditionally as a baseline of value measured in purity and weight. It’s as close as humanity has ever come to an ideal, qualitative definition of money.

    As a constant on that basis, it doesn’t rise or fall keeping a rough 1-2% parallel to population growth. Rather, it’s the measure of any given fiat currency, a fiat-commodity that moves on a basis of unlimited supply to infinity against it.

    Like over-production of a agricultural commodity, the $ is what’s in a supply bubble in the same sense as are Treasury’s. Both represent nominal debt, one bears interest, one doesn’t, one’s legal tender, the other backed in fiat and liquid.

    We tend to look at gold backwards due to normalcy bias and it’s causal to the confusion that you express, Cam. We’ve been conditioned to think of gold as the commodity measured in $’s, but it’s really quite the reverse. FRN $’s are legally mandated for political reasons, not economic ones. It’s precisely that vulnerable nature of fiat that inevitably destroys its utility, and the Fed is as committed to preserving the debt infrastructure of the global economy as denominated in $’s as has every imperial hegemony that has ever existed.

    Austerity is selectively directed as are declines in prices of mal-priced markets due to mal-financing in fiat denomination. If you measure the exact same mal-investment in gold, it never increased in value, there was no asset bubble in real estate by weight of gold.

    Similarly, there was no ‘recovery’ rally in the indices, because there was no ‘bull’ after 2k to begin with, measured in gold.

    http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2011/12/13/saupload_Dow_since_2000_measured_in_gold_and_dollars_1.png

    Point being that, yes, were the PTB so inclined they could collapse the global markets denominated in fiat by allowing interest rates to rise and reduce the world’s economy to deflated rubble, utter depression and war(s).

    There is absolutely NO hint, outside of hollow Fed rhetoric for manipulative effect, that there’s intent, desire or political capability to destroy the very financial edifice of their creation that supports their entire regime. No, everything will be done that can be done to prop through print and forced liquidity for as long as they can manage until there’s no utility left in the currency of denomination. Too big to fail will remain so for as long as collapse is avoidable. Until it occurs in a spec-TACULAR, inflationary parabola.

    What’s left as a basis of value thereafter when all political credibility is gone will be what it’s always been. Real Au @ weight and purity, with it’s tag along ugly sister, Ag. No more American Express, what you won’t leave home without, is phyzzz.

  • Tech-trac May 1, 2012, 4:44 pm

    The H&S pattern has taken too long on the R(shoulder) to be predictive.(NEUTRAL)

    The GDXJ/GDX ratio chart bottomed last DEC & has not confirmed the new lo’s in the GDX but rather is tracing out the same pattern as the commodity .(BULLISH)

    The spread between Hi quality & Lo quality bonds (#120bps) does not hint of deflation. At its peak in 2008/2009 it topped #330bps.(NEUTRAL)

    even during the FLATIONIST scares early in the new decade it peaked @ #148bps.

    I’m sure the TED spread confirms as much.

    and ShadowGovt? Deflation?

    With AU still above its only rising moving avg’s, the 300 dma & the 65 Wkly MA & the XAU/GOLD ratio @ #10 vs a Lo @ ’08 down from #17 in’09 something has to give…

  • mario cavolo May 1, 2012, 4:36 pm

    The other aspect to consider when looking at gold and all other assets is “correlation” . I just spent the past hour watching the USD go up together WITH the indexes while gold took a nose dive….hmm? Its impossible to follow when one month its “risk off USD risk on equities/gold/Euro/oil” and another month its not, depending on whatever whims we can attribute such correlations to…..vvvvery difficult waters to navigate folks…Cheers, Mario

    • John Jay May 1, 2012, 7:20 pm

      Mario,
      When they can sell a years worth of Gold or Silver production in the futures market whenever they please, backed by access to the Fed Discount Window for as much as they ask for, that is out of my league.
      Isn’t there a Gold/Silver Futures market over there in Hong Kong or Shanghai now? Does it mirror all the moves on the Crimex? I never imagined they could maintain our huge deficits and National Debt with ZIRP for this long.

    • mario cavolo May 2, 2012, 3:18 pm

      Yes, opened up in HK, actually I haven’t followed and don’t know much about its impact or character in the marketplace…worth looking into. All kinds of access opening up in the monetary world over here….creates huge variables and impacts…

  • John Jay May 1, 2012, 2:40 pm

    It is hard to predict what TPTB have planned for us.
    Intervention and corruption in the worlds of finance and politics are now as pervasive as gravity.
    Paul Krugman and Ben Bernake are having an Alice in Wonderland debate over whether the Fed’s 2% inflation target should be breached to reduce unemployment.
    Sometimes I believe those in power may actually believe their own lies. Food, energy, airfares, health insurance, college tuition, etc. have all had huge increases as we all know. It has already been shown that the big banks can do whatever they please to game and manipulate markets. Not only do they not face prosecution, the government stands ready to bail them out if they really screw up. All I can recommend is to day trade and not hold any positions over night unless you are using cheap options to ride a long term trend like the Yen up or Natural Gas down. It is their world we only live in it.

  • Avocado May 1, 2012, 2:09 pm

    Question from the ijit.

    I noticed that the 50 day MA crossed below the 200 day MA in mid April, for the first time since late 2008.

    Any significance to this?

    Seems to me the last time it did this Gold and gold stocks swooned. Wasn’t pretty, if I remember correctly.

    Andy

  • Buster May 1, 2012, 2:01 pm

    For what it’s worth, which is not a lot really, I see crippling inflation coming hard & fast to all of us inmates inside the prison. It looks like the next phase of this forced ‘austerity’ process is just kicking off again now. I would stock the larder with commodities whilst you can (barely) afford them.

    • mario cavolo May 1, 2012, 3:42 pm

      Hi Buster, I’ll disagree with you on that idea in a friendly way.

      Yes, inflation and plllllllllenty of continuing expansion, monetary, healthy and unhealthy et al.

      But not coming hard & fast…..slow, insidious, nasty, miserably, the frog slowly boiling.

      China is very much a new global economic bellwether on the map, much as U.S. real estate prices and other macro indicators are. And as such, we here in China are all living with that slow, miserable, creeping inflation where one day you come along and say to your self “hey wait a minute, when $5 for a beer is cheap, you’re in big big trouble.” And that’s where we’re at here. Prices of “stuff” all around are insidisously rising, eating away at the purchasing power of whatever currency one happens to have in their pocket. Though, by comparison, the U.S. has a nice inventory of goods available to consumers at cheap prices, I also have read many stories here of that same, insidious price increase/quantity decrease inflation of household products hitting the U.S. too. While, in the U.S. the market is far more mature, far more transparent and far more sophisticated, and so you all find the fabulous 2 for 1 type offers and other big discount offers from major retailers which take the bite out of the inflation, but here in the rise of Asia led by China, that is not a prevalent pracice in the retail space.

      Meanwhile, we are now seeing the same real estate pattern here as in other countries, as Cam pointed out, while I still think he is only partially correct in that I do not at all see his China real estate bubble pop here or coming ever, but otherwise, he makes the great observation about very high real estate prices on multiple continents.

      My point is that we do in fact have high purchase prices, but with low, reasonable rental prices, a state of affairs that could easily last another 20 years! That is the “new” and “latest” state of affairs here in China specifically in the 1st tier cities. I don’t expect this state of affairs to change anytime soon nor do I suspect any particular catalyst will come along.

      I recall when renting in Huntington Beach, CA about 13 years ago that the guy’s 4 bedroom house I was living in was selling for some ridiculous amount like $500,000 yet could be rented for $1000. Today, those #’s are about the same. Hah, I say that’s dirt cheap, as 8 Chinamen restaurant workers would quickly rent out that house at a per person cost of $125 per month each and live happily ever after! And so this is the direction for the average struggling American, learning to adopt the Asian budget lifestyle.

      How gold is and is going to react to this state of affairs across the globe, I wouldn’t begin to have a clue…thanks as always to Rick for his insights and venue.

      Cheers all, Mario

    • Mark Uzick May 2, 2012, 7:41 am

      Mario:
      But not coming hard & fast…..slow, insidious, nasty, miserably, the frog slowly boiling.

      This is certainly the intention of our would be masters, but I think you may be giving them a little bit too much credit for their technical finesse at evading panics and crises that can force them to prematurely reveal their hand.

    • mario cavolo May 2, 2012, 3:16 pm

      Hi Mark, yes its a very good point, and I certainly don’t want to compliment the bastards! 🙂

      Yet I quip about the word you use, “finesse”. It implies delicacy and sensitivity …Hah, issuing $50 billion a week is more like the brute force of an empty-brained knucklehead like Pluto…:)

  • mac May 1, 2012, 1:32 pm

    Hello,
    If there is deflation, gold would at least hold its own in price relationship to other assets, I think.
    But as we see QE has never ended, and is increasingly being used all over the world, and to an extent that is simply mind boggling we believe inflation is more likely (and desireable).
    Ask yourself, if I lived in Spain, would I buy some Gold to protect myself? …or in Italy, Ireland, Greece, France etc..?
    The US is printing like crazy and is not unlike Greece. If one of the Euro countries just says “goodbye” and leaves, what then happens to the Euro as expectations arise for more exits?
    Many US municipalities are really in financial dire straights, and need bailouts, too. 47 million on food stamps, unemployment over 15% (maybe over 20%) means money printing is guaranteed. Period, there is no option.

  • Mark Uzick May 1, 2012, 12:00 pm

    That the world is in the midst of a deflationary credit collapse, is not really controversial; the only question that remains is, “Who will be made to pay for the profligacy of the serial bubble blowers that got us into this mess:

    1. the states of the world; their connected finance and business cronies; the local state and federal employee union members who, as our masters, ride herd on the rest of us and who feel so militantly entitled to our groveling respect and obedience and the people who rode on the easy money train to wealth through debt

    or

    2. will these self entitled insiders be bailed out through the destruction of savings – the seed capital of our future survival and prosperity – so painstakingly accumulated by the productive class for their security and their children’s future?”

    If it’s #1, then we will have a needed healthy price deflation amidst the credit deflation.

    If it’s #2, then galloping price inflation will rule while the rest of us are made to pay for the bailout of the “omnipotent state” and its insider cronies and everyone’s standard of living and liberty suffers to the delight of those who don’t appreciate true wealth and happiness, but the relative wealth and comfort given to those with high status.

    • Mark Uzick May 1, 2012, 12:20 pm

      If we take route #2, then Cam will be right about deflation (Like the rest of us.) but wrong about everything else.

      If we take route #1, then Cam will have been proven prescient and we will all rejoice – even those of us who have placed our bets on route #2. (If we placed our bets on gold, our purchasing power will increase even if our dollar denominated wealth decreases.)

  • isjosa May 1, 2012, 11:46 am

    cam, where do you see the world indices going to?

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 1, 2012, 3:51 pm

      We often hear about the strength of corporate balance sheets. Some might even be left with the incorrect impression that despite all the mayhem surounding the excess of credit amongst consumers (added to all the government borrowing that now looms as a future tax burden), that somehow business is healthy, rich…. even bullet-proof. Some in public office are even demanding that those companies with healthy reserves should deploy their resources to spur employment gains and thus ramp up demand. I don’t know if that can be effective (except at the local level) as the perspective has changed dramatically from one of falling consumption at the national level to one where the shortfall in aggregate demand is actually being manifest globally. Truly, we are all in this together. The end of this period of borrowing and lending and inflating of assets can only result in pain on the bottom line of any companies with exposure to markets that are about to see their own bubbles burst. What I do believe is going to happen is that many companies will fail over the next few years as savings rates rise and debt is delevered. Fat balance sheets will only protect you so long. You still need ongoing sales and the hope that your exisiting assets won’t be indecline. Many companies are not therefore as strong as we would like to believe and so should exercise caution. As it stands, consumption on both the public and private sides of the equation are a real threat to growth. Collectively, we still have too much debt and it will take years for it to be paid down. This situation is one that appears in the light of a huge surplus of supply which is problematic. It should be obvious that deflation is the outcome despite monetary intervention which has not meaningfully been able to address one important element of our lives. We don’t need more stuff. We don’t often have money to buy more anyway. Ultimately the hurt at the household level and the belt tightening of governments (yes, they will all tighten in the end) will show up in corporate profits/losses. Where else would the dollars come from to shore up shakey finances if no actual savings exist that are meaningful enough to extinguish the burdens of the past? From falling consumption of course. My feelings are that the idea that business is in great shape is only masking weaknesses that we see every single day. Sure, some are strong but many others are at risk of failing and those numbers will only grow as consumers retrench. Retailers are already going bust along with the malls that were built to house them. The new stresses are being felt now nearer the source and in the manufacturing sectors too as pressures are being applied to China’s factories and demand falters in too many “rich” countries all at once. There are a growing number of mergers too and misallocations of the past are being resolved in takeovers, buyouts or outright failures such as we have seen with so many banks. This trend will only grow over time. Healthy companies need to stay healthy if they are to take advantage of the coming opportunities and come out on top. So a consolidation process is also underway now that is gaining steam as time rolls on and some business’s (those that were not better prepared) are being absorbed in one way or another by those that have the financial resources on hand to weather the storm as it continues to grow. Consolidations in the resources sector might just be epic this time around too (ultimately everything is about resources…we all know that, right?) We have not, meanwhile, seen a really bad quarter in some time where corp. revenues are concerned but that cannot guarantee one is not coming. They always do inevitably. The sharp decline in consumption that inevitably follows a credit collapse is the signal we should be watching for to know that a bad quarter is indeed on its way. It cannot be far off judging by what is currently taking place in China and much of Europe. This time though there really are no other countries in a position to meaningfully carry the ball if the EU is gone recessionary while a simultaneous drop in commodity consumption is being seen emanating from the East on faltering housing. So it is global. That is why we worry. The China-demand portion of the equation is just so large and out of proportion to the rest of the globe that there is inevitably going to be repercussions all along the chain as their own orgy of excess attempts to correct itself. So where do I think the indices are headed? Without knowing when, I am pretty certain that a serious correction is already on its way and that it will materialize as a direct result of global aggregate demand falling; an outcome of the failure of property bubbles to actually inflate economies and generate real demand. The wealth effect of real-estate inflation and the theory behind masive debt creation entailed in order to float the worlds economy is just so much vapour as it turns out. The idea has failed very badly. We are only left with the debts after the fact, the equity has long since left the building. They say the Emperor has no clothes. I think we are about to see one of those moments but try not to worry, it is not all bad news. Should you be amongst those who survive the coming onslaught and market correction in a healthy cash position you will be primed to take advantage of one of those rare “once in a generation” buying opportunites that is only available to those who saved thier pennies for a rainy day. Lucky for you if you are free of burdens and not one of those buried under a mountain of past debt obligations that will absorb most people for the next decade.

      Seriously. Rejoice if you are not mortgaged.

  • Dale May 1, 2012, 8:48 am

    7 days ago, Peter Brandt, a classical chartist in the Schabacker, Edwards and Magee sense http://peterlbrandt.com/about/ wrote:

    “Gold is now set to generate the next major signal, and very soon. The direction is yet to be determined. …The Gold charts can give traders a ton of fake out signals on a short-term basis. But on a longer-term basis it can be said that the Gold charts are among the most reliable of all markets. Gold is very dependable in advertising big moves in advance.”

    I would qualify the term traders to “non-HP” traders, as we are much less likely to be faked out.

    “The Gold market is the perfect example of a concept of classical charting I call “morphing.” Morphing occurs when many short-term patterns (most of which fail) combine to form a massive pattern. These short-term patterns have a way of wearing out traders financially and emotionally. Eventually a chart pattern of huge proportion forms and matures. This larger pattern then leads to the next significant move in Gold. It has always been this way in Gold.”

    He confirms Phil C’s Head and Shoulder pattern (or perhaps Phil is confiming Peter’s since he pointed it out to us a week ago).

    “The daily closing price chart below shows that Gold could be forming a massive continuation inverted H&S pattern. Mature patterns tend to have symmetry — and this is the case with this H&S patterns. The right and left shoulder lows are within a week of being equal distance from the low of the head.”

    “There are several factors in support of this interpretation. First, most periods of congestion are resolved in the direction of the move preceding the congestion. In other words, the odds always favor a continuation pattern. Second, open interest is the lowest it has been since Sept. 2, 2009 when Gold was below $1000. This was precisely the point– to the exact day — when Gold last completed a chart pattern (17-month continuation H&S) of the magnitude of the current consolidation pattern. The Sept. 2, 2009 low has not been seen since. ”

    He also sees “…the possibility of an 8-month descending triangle. Descending triangles are almost always resolved by a downward move.”

    Finally, “…but for the first time in nine months the Gold chart is capable of launching a really big move. And based on the mature nature and symmetry of the present chart, the start of the next move should be very soon.”

    Yes, but probably not May 1st since China is closed for trading Monday and Tuesday.

    You can read his blog entry complete with charts here: http://peterlbrandt.com/gold-is-within-a-week-or-two-of-declaring-its-next-260-move/

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 1, 2012, 7:38 am

    On the other hand….

    There is always the other hand is there not? Maybe you technical folks can tell me what is coming for the USD dollar by looking at a longterm chart of USD/INR which now sits at near 52 1/2 and is close to peaking at its 2011 high.

    Rupees, of course. Massive double top anyone?

    US Dollar to Indian Rupee Exchange Rate data by YCharts

    Gee, maybe QEIII really is coming…… or the Bundesbank is about to relent and agree to a fiscal compact for the Eurozone……or China is about to relieve its lenders of their high reserve obligations and cut loose with an aggressive growth formula to blunt the damaging effects of its collapsing housing bubble….we know they need to get more liquidity into the system and the PBOC is prepared to get more aggressive if necessary but nobody knows just how edgy they really are (not that any of it will help in the end anyway)

    Or all of the above. Yeah, that would send gold flying.

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 1, 2012, 2:34 pm

      PS: Sorry if the first post sounded unfriendly Rick. It was not intended that way nor was it a criticism of you or your post but rather just reflects my recent views of what I am reading online where gold and gold shares are concerned. I appreciate your point of view and often find it very helpful in formulating my own position.

    • mario cavolo May 1, 2012, 4:55 pm

      Hi Cam,

      On China and the U.S. systems, that’s the rather interesting difference in terms of policy; as you suggested, yes China will make a change and announce and implement it in a flash, while such process typically takes much longer in the U.S. system. Yes Beijing/banks definitely will not hesitate to reverse reserve obligation levels lower as needed, along with a variety of other monetary/policy options always at their fingertips ready to be deployed as needed, completely regardless of the inconvenience it may cause anyone in the society.

      For example, they one day simply announce “the capital gains tax on real estate is suspended, go buy property.” or “the capital gains tax on real estate is reinstated and you can only have a mortgage on your 1st home but not on a second or third home that is not in your hometown where you were born.”

      That kind of fast decision flexibility and variability of policy to market impact does not exist back in the U.S.

      Which leads me to my second, and consistent, persistent point….there is softening of property market prices in several markets here; and there are several vertical, isolated market cases which are more severe due to more localized, municipal level speculation and corruption, but in the overall broad market throughout the 1st, 2nd and 3r tier cities here, there is not and there will not be anything that resembles a collapsing housing bubble here in China. To the degree we do have a globally connected recession/deflation, very possible, prices will soften up 10-30% which aint bad after having risen substantially from their previous third world country mortgage free levels.

      Cheers, Mario

    • Cam Fitzgerald May 2, 2012, 1:55 pm

      Thanks for all your comments Mario. One thing I have often appreciated about you is your confidence that everything will be OK in the end. You may be right. As each new crisis unfolds there has been a tendency on the analyst side to overdramatize the potential negative outcomes. Must be human nature. I have been guilty of this myself so I am trying to be more objective lately. You know, keeping things in perspective. You mention above how a 10 to 30% real estate correction isn’t so bad considering how far prices have risen. I only wish that made me feel better but wild swings in such a massive market are not a laughing matter. In this case, trillions in wealth are on the line and how peoples lives are impacted from beginning to end can be dramatic. We are not talking about stock prices here though which can have wild daily swings that traders can capitalize on. This is real estate. Usually it moves more like a super-tanker than a speedboat. Under more stable conditions it does not generally vary more a few percentage points in a year, never mind double digit banshee swings off the rafters.

      My call yesterday that the dollar was on the verge of a breakout looks confirmed this morning and precious metals are indeed falling back as the Euro declines. I am sticking with my call for Silver to drop below 30 bucks with Gold threatening the 1600 mark. Hopefully you have also noted that metals are tracking the Euro and commodities right now. In particular, gold is not behaving as a flight to security investment. This despite the Fed warnings that inflation was heating up and action might be needed on the rate front to tame its growth.

      All fascinating, no doubt. Have a great day!

  • Cam Fitzgerald May 1, 2012, 6:21 am

    Pile into the trade then, Rick. You will just be fodder for the machine because we are all on a deflationary trend that has been chugging along relentlessly since the credit crisis. Not that anyone really cares to hear about it. Once most die-hards have their hearts and minds set on gold (and gold shares) as a great opportunity just because they look cheap to the naked eye there is little to stop them and nothing to turn back the tide of those who will merely power up the next decline. And this deflationary spiral, which has only just begun, does in fact encompass most of the globe. Had anyone cared to take the time to notice they would easily confirm that the US housing bubble was only one amongst hundreds of similar housing bubbles in action around the world. What is coming next is an end to a credit fueled orgy that covers four corners of the globe. It will only be inflationary if and when demand outstrips supply, when more credit is desired than lost and when all those theoretical and electronic dollars that float about actually start seeking the supply that sits as inventory and thus a hindrance to future organic growth. We are awash in supply. That is our problem now and so it is highly unlikely for any of the above to happen as long as consumption and credit demand collapse. Not before housing busts from Bejing to Mumbai run their course and come to a conclusion, anyway. As I noted, the real estate excess that has fueled growth for so long is a global phenomenon. We see it all over Africa and Asia too. America’s bust was but one of the first but it won’t be the last. Look at the Eurozone. They have seen a bust in countries such as Ireland, Iceland, Spain and Greece but there are many more waiting in the wings yet. Is there true organic demand there now? Seems there is not. Is credit rising or falling? Where do you think that really leaves Gold then as deflationary forces undermine all of the efforts of Central Banks to prop up our economies in an attempt to reactivate most of the world all at once. It is just beyond belief that anyone can see gold and silver rising under these conditions when in fact dozens of majors (countries) are on the verge of seeing their own wealth effects vanish in exactly the same way the US saw its real estate losses strip trillions out of the economy. I think that as the realization dawns on more people that the misuse of credit is almost as epidemic in poor and developing nations now as it was in America there can be no real understanding of how deep the deflationary depths might yet be plumbed. This is a South Seas moment…only worse. This time nobody will be spared thanks to our great interconnected systems and global economy. Until I see consumption and credit demand rise in response to existing expansionary monetary policies and the suggestion of more easing I will not be convinced gold is gloing anywhere but down. These feeble inflationary trends meanwhile are still nothing compared to the damage that is coming across the globe from deflating bubbles nor is it garlic for those that are on the way. China first amongst these. Canada as you know is in the crosshairs and its own excess will be irritated even further by what happens overseas. Australia is already on the road to a nasty correction and much of the EU has only pain ahead as austerity bites the arse the feeds it and even the biggest of the group falter under failing growth numbers. But what about Russia? What about Brazil and most of South America? Is anyone here even aware that Africa itself also suffers from the same damn affliction of madly escalating property prices that just about ruined the US? That a whole new bubble has appeared in the West where farm land is concerned?……I could go on. What is the point. I won’t argue gold is not a store of wealth but I will not consider it at these price levels and certainly not if we are to go recessionary despite all the monetary intervention which has as of yet failed to reignite growth trends from the past.

    We are deflating. Gold will deflate too until it reaches the right price.

    • Darkest Knight May 1, 2012, 9:53 am

      You are spot-on about deflation, I believe.
      However, you must throw out the dogma that Gold will fall due simply to deflation.
      This is a different scenario to the Great Depression Mark I – Gold is set to take back it’s rightful place as central to the world’s monetary system. Gold is money, not just some ‘commodity’.
      THAT is the difference, and a BIG one.
      DK

    • gary leibowitz May 1, 2012, 3:57 pm

      Gold will be hit when a nasty bout of deflation hits. Most likely it will be hit less than other assets.

      The assumption is that deflation hits right away. If it doesn’t and equities rise, so will gold. If deflation hits say next year gold could already be at 3,000 oz. Deflation usually lasts a lot shorter than inflation. If we have a deep contracted deflation for say 12 to 18 months that will be followed by re-inflated assets. Gold will eventually do very well. I expect the end result, in perhaps 4 years, to see gold at 7,000 to 10,000 oz.

    • mario cavolo May 1, 2012, 4:04 pm

      Hi Cam, that’s a great set of point of thoughts, well done. I just have my doubts with respect to the idea that the nightmare may come “soon”. This kind of situation across the global economy can continue with minor and mid stream ups and downs and manipulations and crises of one sort of the other without ending up in a total globally connected meltdown of sorts.

      One of the things I often think about is that for every action there is a reaction. So, then applying that to assets, when one asset may implode, that money will go to other assets instead; it rotates, it allocates elsewhere and so the game remains afoot. Some of it vaporizes according to Rick, but not all of it.

      A swan dive in U.S. real estate prices leads to massive increase of money inflows to snap up that property cheap; ditto for other investment opportunities. he Chinese get rich as hell domestically, now look at reality; they are the world’ #1 top spending tourists and immigrants spreading their money all over the globe, thereby injecting capital into those economies. Many native Chinese try to explain to me why Chinese love to go to America because it is such a wonderful place. Bullshit, its not such a wonderful place, its just a helluva lot cheaper than Europe, because of the currency exchanges and prices, and so that’s where they go! If Europe was cheaper and a better deal, THAT”S where they would go instead.

      Anyway, like I said, nice diatribe. Cheers, Mario

  • mario cavolo May 1, 2012, 5:35 am

    My amateur view simply says, sorry boys, everyone is equally clueless which way it will go. There is a lovely head and shoulders bottom carved as noted and there is a downward sloping trendline as noted too….the pattern is going to resolve one way or the other…we’ll place our bets and manage the risk and then its wait and see and adjust accordingly. Seems to me that placing some type of limited risk spread position right now on gold would be a fairly low risk way of playing it…. Cheers, Mario

  • Ride the Wave May 1, 2012, 5:31 am

    Rick,

    I couldn’t agree with you more….the lack of trend…or for that matter lack of time to react to the flits and flats of the short term charts in my 2 favorite short term gold/silver trading vehicles GDX and SLW have made me wonder if something is a foot…..I took entry on Friday in GDX and got punched out for a 0.25% portfolio hit when the vehicle pounded by 20 cent stop at the open today….then I mechanically went short after what seemed to be a ABCD bears in the 5, 15, and 30 minute charts just in time to get hit again for a 0.2% pop on GDX again…..and a break-even on SLW….after it was all over…I stepped back and saw the 60 minute charts of both….they scream bull to me….a couple LTTL’s and at least SLW is about to roar….

    While I have become more bearish and bullish mechanical in trading gold and silver and PM stocks since being infused with the brilliance of your system, I still did decide that during this correction I kept a about 20% of my holdings in January 2014 call leaps between 20% and 50% out of the money….

    Thus assuming you are right…and my instincts are right….those horses are about to pay off….

    Cheers,

    Ride the Wave