A True Believer Is Relaxed About Gold

While Rick’s Picks has focused with bland, mechanical detachment on the technical picture  in gold and silver, we rely on our friend Chuck Cohen, a New York-based gold consultant, to stir readers’ imaginations when they think about how high gold shares and bullion could eventually go. We asked Chuck for his current thoughts, and he kindly obliged, even though he was ensconced in a hammock in Puerto Vallarta, sipping a margarita, when we called.

**  The single most important point remains that you keep your perspective fixed on the long-term picture. In spite of all of the monetary stimulation and frantic attempts to prop up a decaying system, the economy and the financial structure are still a mess, with no hint of an effective remedy.

 Babel

 ** Gold is still in a parabolic move, and nothing has changed after eight consecutive yearly rises. This means you must remain patient and focused. At this point, where else would you put your money? The persistent rise in gold will not suddenly end, especially considering that the public has yet to participate, let alone go crazy. To the contrary, most of the gold ballyhoo has come from mainstream economists and such notable gold-haters as Nouriel Roubini and Bob Prechter. As far as the public is concerned, they’ve been all too eager lately to liquidate their gold and jewelry. These are undoubtedly the same folks who got decimated in the dot-com craze and who segued into overpriced homes. Never underestimate the average Americans ignorance in financial affairs.

** Corrections do what they have to do. They will flush out latecomers, top-callers, in-and-out traders, the timid, dollar bulls, emotional investors and momentum players. None stand to reap much benefit from this historic bull market.

** Ignore the media’s take on markets. They have no real idea of what is going on, and if they did, like dissidents in China, they would not be allowed to publish their views. Most news is extraneous to market movements; and for the financial media, news serves merely as a convenient excuse to explain whatever the market did in a given day.

Best Clues are Technical

** The best timing clues are technical. These include overbought signals, or in this case, oversold charts that can be subjective but very helpful.  And of course there is sentiment, which I have found to be the most useful. If all of these come together, then you can feel much more confident that you are at the point when gold can go up again. I believe we are there right now.

** Weakness in the large cap gold shares (GG, NEM, AUY, AEM, ABX, GFI)?  As that peerlessly witty financial historian Bob Hoye likes to point out, such companies tend to trade in tandem with the stock market until the broad averages bottom. At that point, as mining companies’ costs decrease significantly, they start to lift off. Major gold firms did this in the very early 1930’s and have done so recently. They will detach from the stock market one day as the price of gold begins to explode.

** Gold shares generally anticipate tops and bottoms. So far this has not been the case, but expect them to do so shortly, just before the price of gold bottoms, presumably soon.

** Price behavior at a bottom: There are usually two scenarios. The shares might bottom, shoot up and then have one more short pullback to test support well above the low. Or, less commonly, they might simply explode to new highs and then correct. Right now, it’s anyone’s guess.

Conclusions

First, over the so-far eight-year-plus cycle in gold, we’ve seen numerous price declines in the metal but many more in precious-metal shares. There have been countless breathtaking gaps down in the shares — many more than gaps up. This behavior demonstrates the very nature of a bull market, perverse as that might seen. And yet, Goldcorp, my best barometer for the group, is still up about 15 times from its bottom in 2001.  Second, most of today’s naysayers have been predicting a crash in gold all along its powerful rise. The odds that they will be vindicated at some point are slim, even as deflationary pressures abound.

I fully understand that there are massive deflationary forces in effect, and the deflationists have a very strong argument. Ordinarily, as happened until March 2009, a total meltdown could be anticipated. But with a major election in view, with shameless and ignorant politicians of both parties in office, with a Fed Chairman who fully understands the devastating nature of deflation, and given the ease with which the worldwide monetary authorities will push through whatever is expedient, the next rally cycle in gold and silver will be very dramatic.

‘Normal’ Not Possible

This is not to imply that we will have a normal economy once again — I don’t think this is even possible. But once stocks and precious metals bottom this year, we should see some exciting price movement ahead of the fall election. Without knowing exactly what next year will bring, we have a gut feeling it won’t be pretty.

These are extraordinary times, and I see them taking on the character of Biblical events. In this atmosphere, there is going to be a shaking of all created things, most particularly a monetary system akin to a modern-day Tower of Babel. The price of gold, and by association silver, will go into the stratosphere, perhaps even into heaven itself where it is written that “the ultimate City of God will be made of pure gold.”  For a professional consultation with Chuck, contact him by clicking here.

 

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  • AverageJoe January 31, 2010, 5:44 am

    “Other Paul 01.28.10 at 5:20 am
    Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot.”

    I was playing along and almost agreed, until I took a second to think about it. In the USMC we were typically paid cash and the sidearms were present. Later I was payed cash in an envelope every week.

    Now I collect physical metal. Most of my friends collect FRNs in electronic accounts.

  • Mitch January 29, 2010, 7:11 pm

    Hey Rich,

    Read the post. I’m not going back 30 years. last 8 years. If you want to discuss how undervalued and suppressed the PM’s are right now, that’s a different topic. Gold and silver have NOT topped. Where do you get that? Harsh words? Marty O talks out of his a** so you blast me? Get real. You sound like Prechter.

  • Rich January 29, 2010, 5:41 pm

    Absolutely correct?
    8 year Golden Bull Market?
    Utter stupidity and ignorant attitude?
    Head buried deep in the sand?
    Why try to convince people with harsh words when facts speak for themselves?
    Gold was $855 in January 1980, 255.80 in January 2000 and 1226.40 in December 2009. Silver was $49 in January 1980, 3.71 in 1992 and 21 in March 2008.
    Gold was a lengthy trade short and long, less profitable than bonds and stocks and silver, not a belief system. Silver topped ahead of gold both times…

  • Mitch January 29, 2010, 2:26 am

    Chuck is absolutely correct. Seeing comments like the one from Marty O always make me chuckle at the utter stupidity and ignorant attitude displayed towards gold. This is AFTER an 8 year Golden Bull market taking place and yet so many people still have their head buried deep in the sand. You can’t convince people that don’t want to be convinced.

  • gary leibowitz January 28, 2010, 9:50 pm

    Don’t undestand the rationale behind the assumption that Gold will shine in a world wide protracted deflation. The dollars value certainly will not fall against countries that are just catching up to our debt mess. China, while a clear winner, will still be hit hard by the global protraction.

    There doesn’t seem to be anyone that will escape this global problem. Thats why I will stick to my long established view that deflation will hurt all holders of any commodities (with the exception of major supply issues).

  • Rich January 28, 2010, 7:44 pm

    Aloha All
    AAPL was up 33 times from 6.46 in 2003.
    It still pays to use trailing stops when people are most ebullient or downcast.
    Right now it’s still hard to turn on the radio or TV or radio without finding a bullish gold ad, even more now than with 1226.40 gold almost two months ago.
    Would $350 gold and $4 silver shake most people out?
    We still like the DRV trade above 11.37…
    Regards*Rich

  • cp January 28, 2010, 4:31 pm

    Other Paul,

    Very nice post, which also brought up memories of working at my fathers drug store in the 60’s and doing payroll out of yesterdays cash receipts/deposits. The cash salary, after deductions, was then put into a little pay envelope, including the change and handed out to the employees on pay day.

    I also enjoyed your wide angle assessment which included the image of “soft bodyand softer hands”. Very poetic. Americans, in particular, have difficulty in realizing how good most have it, because they most often compare themselves to each other, instead of the rest of the world. It’s an easy trap to fall into.

    It’s inevitable that at some point, the pendulum swings back to the mean and a preview of the depth of that swing can be glimpsed by viewing the bigger picture. Getting lost in illusion about where we feel entitled to be, instead of seeing historical and current world wide conditions hinders our chances at preparing for the future. The adjustment coming to most people in this country will be epic.

    Thanks Rick, for providing a forum where insightful ideas like OP can be read. cp

  • Don January 28, 2010, 6:40 am

    Great commentary by Chuck.
    Lest we not forget the difference in investing and trading.
    As a investor in PM’s I hold the long view and if, just if Prechter, Roubini and other naysayers are right. Then you can take part or all of your core and buy current 3k to 5k
    acre farmland for $100 an acre, or a 10mil condo in Manhattan for 100k So how can you lose. The naysayers in all probability do not own any of the real stuff. They resent the ones who do; still hiding behind mommy’s dress.
    On trading, different from investing; being on the right side of the trade either north or south will make you money. Looking at the daily GC charts from early 12-09 and see the daily swings a lot of money was made and is my view the volatility will only increase and be with us for a long time so it’s time to trade up and down. Your trading account does not care if it growing by either long or short trades.
    Going up in 11-09 Rick gave several warnings of GC getting toppy. I got out around 1217. Where are his warnings currently? I’m listening.
    Rick is great with this HP method of his; just follow it and try, try to leave the emotion out. When leaving my bias out it works for me. When viewing a chart try looking up and down.
    Best of trading to everyone.
    Don

  • FranSix January 28, 2010, 6:11 am

    Came across this item, which confirms my suspicions about negative interest rate policy:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ahegQQCnLVyo

    If three month treasuries are in a negative interest rate policy, then for certain negative overnight interest rates are called for. The FOMC has not changed its rate, but the longer negative rates go on, the more the pressure will be to enter into ‘real’ Quantitative Easing with negative rates.

    Negative rates are a positive risk benefit to gold as a store of value.

  • Other Paul January 28, 2010, 5:20 am

    Most readers have never experienced a old, classic Friday payday with a paymaster having you sign for your wages and being paid in cash, on the spot. The vast majority of us never see actual cash on payday. We hear an synthesized voice confirming how much our deposit was, go get a statement from the ATM, or see our direct deposit amount online. Most of us have lost the connection between our work and our wages, and even more troubling, a sense of the value of our work and our wages.

    Many of us are blessed with, let’s face it, cushy jobs in air-conditioned offices, with a very high ratio of salary “earned” to calories burned. We have all the modern conveniences and have a standard of living way above most people on Earth.

    As Mr. Cohen points out, the public hasn’t “gone crazy.” Tupper-gold parties are much more popular than gold investment seminars.

    Once the next major financial crisis strikes, many of us with soft bodies and softer hands will watch our electrons of fiat wealth quickly evaporate in value and availability. We will envy those who felt their silver certificates and silver coins in their hardened, calloused hands after a hard week’s work.

  • Daman Prakash January 28, 2010, 3:24 am

    I like the phrase ” bland mechanical detachment” often used by Rick. This what that makes one come to have a firm grip amidst frothy mess of markets swinging between extreme pessimism and blatant euphoria.

    Gold is precious and shall remain so. Every monetary instrument we have experimented to barter our trade has been failing at every stage of human history.

    Yet, every year we have a top and bottom in Gold and unless we have that bland mechanical detachment, we will all end up accumulating Gold at highs and selling at bottom when extreme pessimism prevails. I don’t wish to be buying Gold at 1227 to see 1080 in just two months thereafter. Likewise in 2008, Rick came out with his spot on analysis when Gold was seen turning for worse from 1000+ to 680. Rick’s mechanical touts help us to accumulate Gold near bottoms and encourages us to make profit at potential highs. This process has helped us to increase quantity of personal Gold holding every year.

  • Marty O January 28, 2010, 3:05 am

    No new ground here. Usual non-sense…..$145 off the highs, but don’t panic, keep the faith. The bull is not over, keep focused on the long-term. Sounds like the same stuff I hear about equities. Where is your STOP ace? Where are you wrong? $900, $800, $700???

  • Chris T. January 28, 2010, 2:52 am

    Chuck writes:

    “…with a Fed Chairman who fully understands the devastating nature of deflation…”

    For the system we have now, where debt and financial Potemkin villages abound, this is true.
    But in a non-fiat/non-debt-based money world, where people are creditors with assets (as most Americans were even into and during the depression), deflation is not only not bad, it is a good thing. Appreciation of one’s savings (what deflation really means) allows for a safe and secure present and future, where our kids can actually expect to be better of than their parents.

    But today, we have a system where a GM wasn’t even able to make a week’s payroll (let alone service past interest and/or principal) without access to (short term) credit. It used to be that companies borrowed for capital expansion, but where they funded the operating expenses with cash (savings), or at the very least, cash-flow.

    This is not a criticism of your overall article, which I find rather convincing, just to point out that Bernanke may be a master inside the system he serves, but a fool in the ways things really work.